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Old 30th-March-2005, 08:57 PM
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I recently watched an old video that was shown on the bbc about 10 years ago. it was about hunting in africa and the progression of the laws (as it was in a lecture on wildlife and environmental law).

the video showed westerners going to africa and killing thousands of big mammals. when the population declined the brittish went and past judgment and said that it was the african 'savages' that had caused the decline in numbers. therefore they banned all africans from hunting in their own country when they had only killed what was needed to survive. the westerners were still allowed to go in and kill as much as they wanted because 'it wasn't their fault'. there was even a scene where some americans had taken an elephant back to america and thought it was a good study to see how much electricity would kill an elephant . i couldn't believe it. i'm not a person who cries at any available moment, but seeing the society that i'd been brought up in was harsh.

finally hunting was banned all together but now there are areas where it is legal to hunt, but it costs quite an extortionate amount, therefore there aren't as many people going to do it.

some examples of the game fees are:

elephant $4000
olive baboon $90!
impala $240
wildebeest $320
buffalo $600

DON'T BE ALARMED! there are also additional fees too and someone can't just fly in and kill an animal and fly out again they have to stay there for at least a week. this would make the cost to kill an elephant around $25,000.
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$90 for a baboon?! even with additional expenses...

I know they justify some of it by ploughing the money back into protecting the rest from poachers etc, but... ye gods!

When quite a bit younger, I used to enjoy reading the old Victorian and Edwardian exploration adventures "The Lost World", "King Solomon's Mines" and the like, but picking them up today, I find them almost impossible to read because of the casual offhand comments on the day's list of kills (not to mention the racism of the times etc). "King Solomon's Mines", of course, features Alan Quartermain (doing most of the killing) who was more recently the star of "The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen" - an extraordinary gentleman indeed.

Truth is that they'd got it right: it was the African savages who caused the decline - the ones who'd left Africa some hundreds of thousands of years ago...
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i know i was thinking that about the baboon! bit crap aint it!
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i know i was thinking that about the baboon! bit crap aint it!
I've said it once and I'll say it again. Poverty is the problem here. If you had a choice between starving or selling hunting rights to stupid westerners what would you do?
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i know but at least it's controlled. there are set areas where hunting is allowed in africa, but that still doesn't stop animals coming from a protected area into the hunting area.
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i know but at least it's controlled. there are set areas where hunting is allowed in africa, but that still doesn't stop animals coming from a protected area into the hunting area.
Sure, I appreciate that. But if you need money to survive you'll find ways to get it, often in desperate ways.
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yeah i know what you're saying. it's terrible that some people have so much money and they have nothing. at the moment i'm absolutely skint but i try to give as much as i can.
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yeah i know what you're saying. it's terrible that some people have so much money and they have nothing. at the moment i'm absolutely skint but i try to give as much as i can.
Maybe you could sell licenses for fat Americans to shoot the local wildlife
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lol good one!

i don't think i'll do that though!
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Licences to shoot at fat Americans sounds more benficial - I'm sure that you'd get a lot of takers.
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