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31st-March-2008, 11:15 PM
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Sapling
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Dual Flush Toilet Retrofit Kits
One way to save up to 24,000 liters of water per year is to convert your existing toilet into a dual flush toilet. One big flush for solid waste and a half flush for liquid waste. You can find retrofit kits that fit most North American toilets here at Dual Flush Toilets
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1st-April-2008, 07:07 AM
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Mate I'd join in the discussions if I were you as this advert aint gonna last long 
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1st-April-2008, 09:59 AM
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I doubt most people would save 24,000 litres per year either. :P
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1st-April-2008, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
I doubt most people would save 24,000 litres per year either. :P
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I doubt it too. With saving a maximum of 3L of water a flush, that makes 8,000 flushes per year or 22 piddles per day. Quite a bit of beer drinking required.
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1st-April-2008, 06:11 PM
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Sapling
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Older High Flow toilets, of which there are many still in use, can come in 12L, 13L and even 18L varieties.
If you have a 12L toilet, a half flush being 4 liters, you save 8 liters a flush.
24,000 liters / 8 liters = 3000 flushes. 3000 flushes / 365 days = less than 9 flushes a day to save 24,000 liters in one year. Not too difficult if you have a family.
If you have an 18L toilet, a half flush being 4 liters, you save 14 liters a flush.
24,000 liters / 14 liters = 1714.28 flushes. 1714.28 flushes / 365 days = less than 5 flushes a day to save 24,000 liters in one year. Not too difficult if you're a beer drinker.
Not everyone has tanks this size, but many people still do. Regardless the TwoFlush system can be utilized in newer low flow toilets as well, which are usually a 6L variety. That would save you 2 liters with every half flush.
The TwoFlush system is actually adjustable. There is the possibility that it will take less than 4 liters to flush your bowl.
Hopefully this answers your questions.
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2nd-April-2008, 10:06 AM
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It has been a requirement for toilets in the US to be 1.6 gallon per flush for quite a number of years now.
It would probably be cheaper overall to just buy a new tank rather than attempt a retrofit.
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18th-April-2008, 06:28 AM
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Replacing The Tank Won't Work
Its a bit more complicated than just replacing one's tank or even retrofitting an older 3.5gpf/13lpf toilet to make it into a dual flush toilet. The older bowl hydraulic designs used in the States won't work at the efficiency needed to make it into a true HET. Unfortunately, we have too many early low performance 1.6gpf toilets still in use that require double flushing which negate any intended savings.
To be upfront, I own a company that manufactures & markets sustainable building & water conservation products, including DFTR kits & HET WaterSense toilets. We're proud to be an EPA WaterSense partner & offer a quality product line as a lower-cost alternative to the status-quo.
Whether going with a retrofit kit or replacing one's existing toilet with an HET model, one should expect a minimum average 25% or greater reduction in water consumption. It may not sound like much but it does add up in annual savings, especially when combined with changing out other inefficient fixtures in one's home or business.
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21st-April-2008, 11:13 AM
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We stayed in a very nice pub at the weekend, but the room had a duel flush toilet that used gallons of water. Why? Because after you flush it, it continued to let water pass through at a trickle continuously, and the pump that topped it up kept starting intermitently. Valve based systems are prone to this, and require proper maintenance. As such, we need to look at where such systems are really appropriate beyond how much they use when they're new.
If they are likely to suffer from a lack of maintenance they will use far more water than any other toilet.
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21st-April-2008, 11:13 AM
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Double bleeding post.
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5th-June-2008, 03:55 AM
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Sapling
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I recently began not flushing the toilet when I use the bathroom, I only flush like 2 times a day to conserve water, am I selfish no? I do recycle.
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