Sheffield Energy Recovery Facility (Incinerator)

[spadlet]

Originally Posted by Wobs

Such negative air pressure systems were proposed for a recycling plant in my area. Despite this, and the fact that it was ideally situated away from houses, and had excellent transport links, the local residents (I use the term loosely!) successfully got the planning rejected. NIMBYism at its worst. As my Grandma pointed out: "What do these people think happens to their waste, do they think that it just gets magiced away."

How come they won? There was loads of negative campaigning in Sheffield about building the new place but Veolia did a really good job correcting the misinformation so that people were talking about the facts. I know the council were already sympathetic to the new development, which would have influenced the plannng decision, but that's why they had all of the figures and legislation etc at the top of their heads when we went round. They've had alot of experience dealing with opposition.

What kind of recycling plant was it? We have one for paper and cardboard that's run by Veolia. There's another one for plastic, textiles and metal stuff run by a local social enterprise called Reclaim.
What were the grounds on which it was rejected?

[Wobs]

Originally Posted by spadlet

How come they won? ?

TBH, I can't recall the exact reasoning, but it was a planning issue. Complete nonesense of course, and it shows that no matter how loudly a group shouts "no", doesn't make them any more right, but they can be successful. Which is a scary thought.

The wastes were to be those collected from houses. ie. plastics, metals, glass, and compostables etc. The composting was to be carried out in the negative air pressure building.

If you ever drive to Hull, you'll drive past the proposed site, just before the turn off for the Humber Bridge. Its a contaminated site as its next to an old landfill, so the land has little alternative use, and being next to a large slip road off the A63, is ideally suited for transport links.

These issues can really get stupid, but a lot of the time, its down to someone in the background who has other property development ideas in the area. But trying to distinguish between what are real concerns or objections, and what are complaints with an alteria motive is hard to spot.

Of course NIMBYism can be a strong force, and the NO camp can come up with a study to say that anything built near their house will affect their kids health.

[forfi]

It seems that Dublin is to get a 600.000 tons /year incinerator.The approval passed the appeals stage and any further objections have to go through the courts.
The nimbys are out in force and the minister for the env, [ a loony green] is quite upset as it is in his back yard so the speak.More on this as it develops,wonder if I can get in as an observer? I would love to see it being constructed.
No doubt this will draw out the objectors in force,one of our best loved serial objectors has tried to block almost 300 private individuals from building homes.he does not live in the same county as any of them.

[spadlet]

Originally Posted by Wobs

Of course NIMBYism can be a strong force, and the NO camp can come up with a study to say that anything built near their house will affect their kids health.

That's crazy, if it isn't even building an incinerator. I don't know how the planners could consider such a report to be scientifically valid. BTW apparently, when they were deciding about the new incinerator in Sheffield, somebody did a study and came up with the idea that substituting the district heating system for loads of boilers to provide the equivalent heat 'on location' would produce more CO2 than the incinerator. I don't know how true it is (I haven't even seen the report) but it's an interesting idea.

[emxxx]

That made very interesting reading thanks for sharing

[Besoeker]

Being a relative newbie, this was posted before my time.
I think it is an excellent scheme on a number of counts.
Thanks admin for citing it.

[forfi]

And its Spadlet's hard work that brought it to our attention.

PS Drat it only allows you to vote once

[forfismum]

And failing to note the successful venture in Sheffield,the people of Ireland continue to object to this [and almost all other ] way of dealing with the materials they throw away.

RTÉ News: Indaver to start Meath incinerator work

Many of these protesters,in fact most of them,prolly never do any recycling otherwise there would not be the need for so many incinerators on this little island.

[Jimbo]

Hello

I'm new here, but found my way after googling Sheffield Energy Recovery Centre, which brought me to this thread;

waste-recycling-forum/10381-sheffield-energy-recovery-facility-incinerator.htm

(the link might not work because I'm new and not allowed to post links... :/ )

Now, what I'm interested in is the part where Veolia overcame any public resistance to the new plant, how did they do it? Prior engagement with the public, stakeholder meetings...? etc Does anybody on here have any such information? Or for similar projects anywhere, er, in the world really?

I have spoke to Sheffield WM who said they'd get back to me, not sure what their timescales are, though...

Thanks

[adi]

Hi Jimbo, welcome to the forum I've merged your post with the original thread to keep things neat and tidy.