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Old 17th-July-2008, 04:06 PM
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Not as you have defined it, it doesn't.
"actual output against rated output over time"

The input and any intermediate conversions could be anything - good, bad, or indifferent. You can't or won't understand/accept that, so the topic is at a dead end.

You seem to have an interest in solar so the following article from a publication I regularly get, might interest you. There are a few other links that may be of interest to other posters too.
Electrical Products & Applications - Flying Too Close to the Sun?

On the contrary, exactly as I have defined it, yes indeed intermediary stages do impact on Net Capacity Factor. Of course the intermediary stages could be anything, but they are not Net Capacity Factor. Output is an embodiment of inputs and processes, thus Net Capacity Factor is directly influenced by and thus reflects the result of such intermediary stages, and thus is in effect an embodiment of such intermediary processes. These processes however relevant, are not Net Capacity Factor as commonly defined, even though Net Capacity Factor is influenced by them. You can't or won't understand/accept that, why is anyone's guess.
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Gentlemen, is this going anywhere? It has the look of a peeing contest at the moment. It might be best to accept neither is likely to change their position and move on. I don't have the technical background to understand half of what's being said but it doesn't seem particularly edifying.
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Gentlemen, is this going anywhere? It has the look of a peeing contest at the moment. It might be best to accept neither is likely to change their position and move on. I don't have the technical background to understand half of what's being said but it doesn't seem particularly edifying.
Exactly. That's why I said in post #60 that the topic is at a dead end and tried to introduce something new.
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Exactly. That's why I said in post #60 that the topic is at a dead end and tried to introduce something new.
Not at all, the topic of Solar Thermal energy on the Rise is alive and well, but your remarks started at a dead end with that particular point and thus I suspect were always going nowhere. Getting back on topic however, it's clearly evident that there is significant interest in Solar Thermal technology as another important contributor to the global renewable energy mix.

Mega Solar: the World’s 13 Biggest Solar Thermal Energy Projects
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Do you have a background in this stuff Magic?
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Gentlemen, is this going anywhere? It has the look of a peeing contest at the moment. It might be best to accept neither is likely to change their position and move on. I don't have the technical background to understand half of what's being said but it doesn't seem particularly edifying.

Why not lock the thread and end the Sh*t?
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I think the particular matter on the point of contention regarding issue of the significance of Net Capacity Factor has effectively been dealt with, though let that not detract from the value of the topic of what is Solar Thermal energy technology and the interesting developments in the industry that are evolving. For me it's an interesting topic as I see great potential in Solar Thermal energy globally and I see it as a subject of emerging public interest. Of course those that arn't interested in the discussion, are free not to participate and focus their attentions to other environmental matters of public interest, of which their are many, that need all the attention and help they can get to evolve their causes.

I suspect Al Gore may have something to say about Solar Thermal in another thread, perhaps much to the disdain of some.
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Apparenty Al Gore will have a lot to say very shortly I believe!

(According to treehugger.com, atleast!)

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Whoops, looks like he's already said it....I haven't read (or seen) it yet mind you so I'll just post this and we'll all be starting from the same point.

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