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Old 27th-November-2007, 09:47 AM
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The biggest problem is where are we supposed to build all the houses that are needed if flood plains aren't used ?
I'm not saying it's a good idea to build on them but if the designing of the houses/community are planned correctly to take the fact they are building on the plains then flood risk can be minimized.

The problem is the developers see the flood defence design as not there problem and pass the buck to the government to fix.

However a recently redeveloped area in the uk called Allerton Bywater has had flood mitigation built into the area of the new development.
http://www.englishpartnerships.co.uk...tonbywater.htm
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Then where does all the water go? Can you picture it then channeled in powerful torrents which would carve massive swathes of damage?
Naturally the floods spread out gently and leave a nice coating of silt on the flood plain,but if we alter that natural flood then we are asking for trouble.
There was a wonderful water meadow in Leamington Spa which used to freeze and become an enormous natural ice-rink,I wonder if that has been built on?
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The biggest problem is where are we supposed to build all the houses that are needed if flood plains aren't used ?
I'm not saying it's a good idea to build on them but if the designing of the houses/community are planned correctly to take the fact they are building on the plains then flood risk can be minimized.

The problem is the developers see the flood defence design as not there problem and pass the buck to the government to fix.

However a recently redeveloped area in the uk called Allerton Bywater has had flood mitigation built into the area of the new development.
http://www.englishpartnerships.co.uk...tonbywater.htm
All developers have a statutory duty to mitigate any flood risk that their development might cause.
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Hi ALL, can any one tell me what website I can look at that shows me a building that can deal with being flooded many times, apart from those built on stilts, and they don't move, which are built on flood plains now in the UK. And can any one tell me if Channel 4 can be seen in Canada, as someone as ask me to find out, so that they can watch it on Monday. Than you.
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+homes&spell=1

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Hi ALL, I've found a webite showing some plans of elevated home designs, which I would like to see built on all our flood plains, to help save lives by law, now and in the future, which you might like to tell others about if they are involved in building homes in anyway on a flood plain, now and in the future, for example the Thames Gateway. It's http://www.allhouseplans.com/house-p...harleston.html . Ofcourse we will build them to what we like to see in the UK. Plus I've found a website that's done some tests all about elevated homes, and those which are not, which comes up good on insurance, and value too in flood risk areas, which I think you should also like to know about if you are buying a house or building. It's www.depts.washington.edu/mitigate/Snoqualmie. I believe everyone who knowingly says it's ok to build on land that has a high risk of flooding, and they go a head and do it, and lives are lost, should be held accountable of premeditated murder, with no ifs or buts. Yes, if we need to build on the land then we must do so, but what I can't understand is why we choose to build on land that can be flooded easly in the first place, when say cows or sheep could graze's on it, leaving fields to build home on with less chances of major flooding, with every way possible for this not to happen built in by design to save the loss of any life. Which I hope Mondays TV channel4 programme is all about to do with flooding. May you and yours and what we grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
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Hi ALL, what a crazy world we live in when Antony Barnet at Channel 4 TV has to tell us the way it is regarding FLOODING, and Baroness Young says she doing her best to sort things out. I say it all comes down to money being spent on something she or any one else won't get a return on in the way of profit, just like my New reuse of waste ideas to help save lives, and help to reduce some of our waste going to landfill sites in the UK, and in the rest of the world.
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FLOODs 'LIKE TERROR' as reported in a news paper dated the 18-12-2007.
FLOODING is as big a threat to Britain as terrorism or a deadly flu pandemic, an official inquiry warned. Ministers were urged to draw up a national emergency plans fillowing this summer's devastating floods in the UK. The report said NEW HOMES NEED TO BE BETTER DESIGNED TO COP WITH FLOODS - and rescue equipment like boats should be stockpiled. And families in flood risk areas were also urged to be better prepared.
They should have emergency flood kits, with a torch, radio, emergency numbers and important documents such as insurance forms. "We are trying to RAISE THE PRIORITY OF FLOODING, putting it on a level that is something similar to terrorism or pandemic flu." There were 87 recommendations that the Government said it would look into, as more than 350,000 people lost their water supply for nearly three weeks in this year's floods, which cost insurers £3billion. Warning systems and drainage systems had to be made better. "We need to improve our weather forecasting and our ways of modelling the ground." "What were people supposed to do? to help people who hadn't been flooded for over 40 years." Brits would be alarmed there was NO UK FLOOD PLANS - NO NATIONAL FLOOD EMERGENCY PLANS, NO CLEAR RESPONSIBILLITY FOR DEALING WITH URBAN FLOODS, and NO SYSTEMATIC STOCK PILLING OF EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT."

FLOOD FARCE.
SIr Michael Pitt's VERDICT, suggests whole communities were exposed to devastation by COMPLACENT GOVERNMENT AND CAVALIER BUILDERS.
MINISTERS WARNED US TO BE PREPARED FOR FREAK STORMS DUE TO GLOBAL WARMING. The only action they took was to IGNORED THEIR OWN ADVICE.

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If they want someone to design houses to build on flood plains, then they need look no further, because I think outside the box when it cames to trying to help solve a problem. I say WHY wait until tomorrow when you can sort it out today, simply done by building all new houses, for a start, having a garage under the first elevated floor.
May I wish you and yours a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 too. John.J.R.P.
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Hi ALL, here is the flood risk help line phone number as they say we are about to get some very heavy rainfall, it's 0845 9881188.
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Hi ALL, here is the flood risk help line phone number as they say we are about to get some very heavy rainfall, it's 0845 9881188.
May you and yours and what grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
One year on and it's happerning again. John.J.R.P.
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