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28th-November-2008, 09:33 PM
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Either way, even if the data was complete up to yesterday, the chart is a chart of the past and does not give any clear indication of the future trends projections.
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OK.
Care to provide numerical data for how you think the trends I provided will project into the futute?
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28th-November-2008, 11:14 PM
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According to the SEIA, there was 418 MW of installed CSP in the US. And there are 4,000 MW under contract for new construction. That's about a 1,000% increase.
The growth of PV installations will probably run up against available supply. US production grew by 74% in 2007.
The new EESA ITC could be as high as $18 billion. That's a lot of money being pumped into solar. Bush (the oil man) signed that one. Obama is talking $150 billion for alternative energy.
It would be hard to put a number on future solar growth, but it's certainly going to be much higher than in the past.
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28th-November-2008, 11:14 PM
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29th-November-2008, 09:51 AM
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OK.
Care to provide numerical data for how you think the trends I provided will project into the futute?
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I will leave that to you, given that you so generously offered. As it stands though, your chart is a chart of the past, not the future.
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In post #131 I offered to provide projections based on known data. That offer still stands.
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29th-November-2008, 11:10 PM
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As it stands though, your chart is a chart of the past, not the future.
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Quite so.
I posted in direct response to your comment about current trends.
In post #88 I pointed out that growth in renewable energy contribution was falling further behind that of fosssils.
In post #89 you flatly rejected that.
That's life.
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30th-November-2008, 08:20 AM
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Quite so. I posted in direct response to your comment about current trends. In post #88 I pointed out that growth in renewable energy contribution was falling further behind that of fosssils. In post #89 you flatly rejected that.
That's life.
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Your chart does not reflect any future trend projection, thus it's a chart of the past. That's life.
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30th-November-2008, 10:25 PM
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Your chart does not reflect any future trend projection, thus it's a chart of the past. That's life.
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As you said, you have no more up to date statistics thus yours is also that of the past.
No big deal.
My point was that, as far as the data I have on current trends permits, the aggregate of all renewables is falling further behind conventional thermal.....and pretty much everything else as it happens.
I was specifically addressing that point and that's what the chart I posted shows. It gives current growth and trends in response to your post #87 where you introduced the topics of current growth and trends.
Current, not future.
But, if you'd like me to extend the trends, I can.
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1st-December-2008, 01:39 AM
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As you said, you have no more up to date statistics thus yours is also that of the past. No big deal. My point was that, as far as the data I have on current trends permits, the aggregate of all renewables is falling further behind conventional thermal.....and pretty much everything else as it happens. I was specifically addressing that point and that's what the chart I posted shows. It gives current growth and trends in response to your post #87 where you introduced the topics of current growth and trends. Current, not future. But, if you'd like me to extend the trends, I can.
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Not a big deal. As I further introduced and indicated your chart reflects the past, not the future. Simple as that. It's a chart of the past and does not reflect future trends and cannot be relied upon, to draw meaningful conclusions about future energy trends.
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In post #131 I offered to provide projections based on known data. That offer still stands.
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1st-December-2008, 09:56 PM
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Not a big deal. As I further introduced and indicated your chart reflects the past, not the future. Simple as that. It's a chart of the past and does not reflect future trends and cannot be relied upon, to draw meaningful conclusions about future energy trends.
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Fine.
Provide one that does.
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2nd-December-2008, 03:56 AM
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Fine. Provide one that does.
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I will leave that up to you, given that you so generously offered. However as it stands your chart reflects the past, not the future.
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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In post #131 I offered to provide projections based on known data. That offer still stands.
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Originally Posted by Besoeker  Energy chart of the past
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Last edited by LMagic007; 3rd-December-2008 at 07:46 AM.
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