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Old 15th-June-2008, 07:27 PM
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So you say. You have yet to cite one.
I know you won't.
I have sited several and won't repeat myself endlessly. Take it or leave it, makes no difference. You have not substantiated your case nor proven my case false and I know you won't because I know you can't. You have expressed a subjective opinion, nothing more, though it's clear you have difficulty accepting that.
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Not one.
Nor will you.
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Not one.
Nor will you.
Wrong
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Wrong
Not so.
But if you want to continue to think that any practical means of electrical energy storage exists, that's fine. And if you think that you have cited any, that's fine too.
I'll just go with what I know can and can't be done.
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Not so.
But if you want to continue to think that any practical means of electrical energy storage exists, that's fine. And if you think that you have cited any, that's fine too. I'll just go with what I know can and can't be done.
Not so. That's fine, you know what you believe, nothing more and that's fine too. I know it can be done. It clearly wouldn't be wise to solely rely on your single view, in forming an opinion about it and I wouldn't suggest anyone do so and that's fine too.
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I know it can be done.
I prefer to stick to facts.
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I prefer to stick to facts.
Evidently not.
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Evidently not.
If true, you should have no difficulty in citing anything I have claimed as fact that isn't.
For a bit of amusement, I did deliberately drop one in a while back to see what would happen. Nothing. It did make me wonder if the effort I make in trying to ensure accuracy is wasted.
Anyway, if you spot it, more power to your elbow.
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If true, you should have no difficulty in citing anything I have claimed as fact that isn't. For a bit of amusement, I did deliberately drop one in a while back to see what would happen. Nothing. It did make me wonder if the effort I make in trying to ensure accuracy is wasted. Anyway, if you spot it, more power to your elbow.
It's more a question of being bothered and frankly I'm not interested in wasting time tracking unsubstantiated comments.

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Admittedly skepticism was mentioned, but that is largely market operational logistics and appropriate pricing mechanisms and as mentioned, most people will charge overnight at home. The key thing is that the technology exists and is practical.

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Old 19th-June-2008, 11:18 PM
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It's more a question of being bothered and frankly I'm not interested in wasting time tracking unsubstantiated comments.
Finegood. In post #57 you take issue with my point about posting facts.
Taken at face value, the "evidently not" comment indicates that you don't accept that I post facts.
Yet you consistently shy away from citing anything I have claimed as fact that isn't.
Won't or can't?
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