New Device Turns Waste Heat into Electricity

[Besoeker]

[quote=LMagic007;245779]

Originally Posted by Besoeker

Not at all, rather a logical congruence.

I don't share that view.
Another dead end.

[LMagic007]

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Originally Posted by LMagic007

I don't share that view.
Another dead end.

Not at all. You arn't obliged to share any view. The thread does not revolve around the agreement with your view or mine. Others may ave their own alternate views. The idea of capturing waste heat energy and converting it to do useful work lives on, as does the research and development and I have little doubt in time the implementation. So to the contrary, no real dead ends in this forum except perhaps that of the mind. Ongoing discussion and canvassing of views, agreeable or otherwise continues.

[Besoeker]

Originally Posted by LMagic007

The idea of capturing waste heat energy and converting it to do useful work lives on.

Of course it can. Capturing and using waste heat already happens and it isn't a new idea. I made that point in post #15, so no disagreement with that.

Where I do take issue with you is when you express that motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat. In other words, you are claiming that you know with certainty that it can be.

The practicality for motor vehicles is what to do with recovered energy. If you care to do the number crunching yourself, you will find that it is a lot of waste energy.

Maybe it can be made use of.
But I don't know how. Evidently you don't either.

So, we are at an impasse.

[LMagic007]

Originally Posted by Besoeker

Where I do take issue with you is when you express that motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat. In other words, you are claiming that you know with certainty that it can be. The practicality for motor vehicles is what to do with recovered energy. If you care to do the number crunching yourself, you will find that it is a lot of waste energy. Maybe it can be made use of. But I don't know how. Evidently you don't either. So, we are at an impasse.

No impasse at all, you are claiming that I know with certainty ( a gross misrepresentation of fact ) I am claiming an opinion of firm belief of fact, but its still an opinion. I think most people know for a fact that heat can be converted to electricity and other forms of energy. One only has to refer to the original posted article in this thread to see the research being done with waste heat and sound and electricity, to name just one approach of several. It's really common sense to make use of this significant waste heat and as such I won't be elaborating upon the obvious, suffice to repeat, there is plenty of indication out there for those that choose to look, that waste heat will in all reasonable likelihood, be better utilized in future and improve the overall efficiency of motor vehicles and potentially other heat engine technology. I have absolutely no doubt about it.

[Besoeker]

Originally Posted by LMagic007

No impasse at all, you are claiming that I know with certainty .

No. I made no such claim.

[LMagic007]

Originally Posted by LMagic007

No impasse at all, you are claiming that I know with certainty ( a gross misrepresentation of fact ) I am claiming an opinion of firm belief of fact, but its still an opinion.

Originally Posted by Besoeker

No. I made no such claim.

Originally Posted by Besoeker

In other words, you are claiming that you know with certainty

[LMagic007]

This is really dead boring and a time waster, but you seem to have a habit of insisting that people posting are posting fact, when the reality is that the vast majority of what is posted by all, is simply opinion and that is a fact. An opinion is not necessarily exclusively contrary or congruent to fact and not dependant on fact, it's simply opinion. An opinion is not right or wrong, its just a point of view. An opinion can exist with or without fact. An opinion can be factually correct or incorrect or partially correct to varying degrees.

If everyone had to post just fact, there would be no forum, no meaningful discussion. Facts of the day may not be facts or tomorrow and opinion brings new ideas that challenge facts of the day or otherwise. I have made it clear that this is my opinion, even though I believe it to be fact. That is a belief, again not exclusively linked to fact. Of course Blind Freddy can see what I believe to be fact is not necessarily proven to be fact in this forum, however the world is much more vast than this forum. This forum is not the medium or court of determination of fact. There is no requirement for anyone to prove the validity of their opinion or even something they believe to be fact, because it's still an opinion, fact or otherwise. You may not agree with the opinion or perspective and that's fine, but that does not negate the existence of such perspective which is just as valid as a perspective as any other. Whether such perspective represents fact is completely different issue.

Your views as much as mine and the next persons on what may be achievable in the application of waste heat capture from Internal Combustion engines and useful application of that heat, is opinion and even though possibly some of the opinion may be reflective of fact whilst other aspects may not, it's still just opinion, factually reflective or otherwise.

So to avoid any further confusion, it is my opinion that capture of waste Internal Combustion engine heat has potential to be put to good use. It is my opinion that it's clear that research is being carried out in this area. It is my opinion that such research will yield successful results and I believe in my opinion such research has already yielded successful results. It's is thus my opinion that it's only a matter of time before the fruits of such research and development, is applied to motor vehicle technology of the future and it is my opinion that I suspect this may be in the not too distant future, particularly with the emergence of hybrid vehicle technology.

[Besoeker]

Originally Posted by LMagic007

No impasse at all, you are claiming that I know with certainty

That was you claim, not mine. See post #31.
Then read post #53.

[Besoeker]

Originally Posted by LMagic007

It's is thus my opinion that it's only a matter of time before the fruits of such research and development, is applied to motor vehicle technology of the future .

I have no problem with that as an opinion.

[LMagic007]

Originally Posted by Besoeker

I have no problem with that as an opinion.

Good

Originally Posted by LMagic007

No impasse at all, you are claiming that I know with certainty ( a gross misrepresentation of fact ) I am claiming an opinion of firm belief of fact, but its still an opinion.

Originally Posted by Besoeker

No. I made no such claim.

Originally Posted by Besoeker

In other words, you are claiming that you know with certainty

It's my opinion that it's a fact, that good use can be made of waste Internal Combustion engine heat in motor vehicles. i.e. it's my opinion that it's a fact that it is possible, rather than a fact that it is not possible.