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No I won't bother elaborating further as I have explained sufficiently.
You have given no explanation whatsoever.
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You have given no explanation whatsoever.
I have expressed an opinion and explained that opinion. I'm satisfied my outlining of the fact that significant heat is wasted from Internal Combustion engines that can be utilized productively. I am not obliged to give any explanation that will satisfy you. If people are interested in more detailed explanations on the matter they can research it in more depth in their own time. I have seen fair indication though that waste heat capture from IC engines and conversion to useful energy is achievable and may likely emerge over the next few years. I suspect others may find the same evidence if they look around.
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I have expressed an opinion and explained that opinion. I'm satisfied my outlining of the fact that significant heat is wasted from Internal Combustion engines that can be utilized productively.
Opinion or fact?
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I have seen fair indication though that waste heat capture from IC engines and conversion to useful energy is achievable.
Care to share that information?
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Opinion or fact?

You are not obliged to give any explanation.

Care to share that information?
In my opinion, it is a well known FACT that significant heat gets wasted with Internal Combustion engines, that's just the way it is. If however you don't believe that to be so, good for you. I can only suggest that perhaps you do some research if you want more information on latest developments or simply wish to satisfy any misgivings you might hold.
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significant heat gets wasted with Internal Combustion engines, that's just the way it is. If however you don't believe that to be so, good for you.

I didn't claim otherwise. The discussion wasn't about whether the IC engine produces waste heat. I doubt that may would dispute that it does.

You asserted motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat.
That's a bold claim you make. Particularly if you can give no basis for what you claim to know.[/quote]
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I didn't claim otherwise. The discussion wasn't about whether the IC engine produces waste heat. I doubt that may would dispute that it does. You asserted motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat. That's a bold claim you make. Particularly if you can give no basis for what you claim to know.
The discussion was about the fact that waste heat is produced in Internal Combustion engines and that it can be made better use of. I don't think it is a bold claim. If you look around to see the various research efforts that are looking at ways of capturing waste IC engine heat, it's easy to make that claim. I don't need to give a basis other than to say, look around and you will find ample evidence supporting the fact that research is being and has been conducted in this area of productively utilising waste IC heat in motor vehicles, to help improve their overall efficiency.

Thus yes I assert that motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat. That is an opinion, like the exceedingly vast majority of posts on this forum.
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Thus yes I assert that motor vehicle technology can be improved to make better use of waste engine heat. That is an opinion.
But you stated it as fact.
However, I accept that you now consider it to be opinion, rather according it the certainty of fact.
Good move......in my opinion.
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But you stated it as fact. However, I accept that you now consider it to be opinion, rather according it the certainty of fact. Good move......in my opinion.
You're entitled to your opinion. In my opinion it's a fact that significant waste heat produced in Internal Combustion engines can be made better use of. I will believe it to be fact until proven otherwise.
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[quote=LMagic007;245732]In my opinion it's a fact
Isn't that a logical contradiction?
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In my opinion it's a fact
Isn't that a logical contradiction?
Not at all, rather a logical congruence.
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