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Old 16th-May-2008, 05:16 PM
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We hear a lot about Energy Independence these days and Clean Energy Solutions,
I would like to know what is your idea of Clean Independent Energy Solutions?

I do not want to pay to be on a Grid system for Electricity any more.
I believe that with the proper stimulus package to help homeowners afford Wind and Solar technologies they would use to "get off the grid", most citizens would be interested provided if they could sell the unused energies back to “the Grid”.

This type of energy system is a win-win for all. Reduce the need for Power Plants and the CO2 and Pollution that Power Plants create.
I do not believe that Wind and Solar farms are a proper habitat for Nature or Agriculture Areas much less for un-developed properties.

If you own a 2-Acre lot you should be encouraged to own or lease 1 Wind Power station and a Solar Electricity Station for your residence that would reduce your impact on the Grid, or remove you from it entirely
If you have less property than 2 Acres you should be encouraged to own or lease a Solar Power Unit that would reduce your impact on the Grid, or remove you from it entirely.

Next would be the Transportation issue:
Technology should be created so that Bio Mass and Solar Power could be utilized in an Electric Fuel Cell vehicle so that you would never have to fuel your vehicle again and the Excess Power could be transferred to your Energy Independent Residence for distribution, possibly sold back to the Grid.

The Local Utilities and the Federal Government should maintain inspections and insurance for all Power Equipment in case a Natural Disaster (Hurricanes and such), or the Greed factor should occur.
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People can already do that here. Just that you don't end up being off the grid. You use your electricity and divert any excess to the grid and are paid at the prevailing load price. When you need electricity, you pay for it from the grid. Most people do home solar, rather than wind, because it is virtually impossible to get planning approval to stick a dirty great wind turbine in the backyard and most other sorts of wind systems don't generate enough power. However, there is nothing in principle stopping someone going wind.

The main reason why there is not total independence from the grid is that home renewable systems don't make electricity all the time and home owners can't afford the mass of batteries needed to store the excess for when it is needed.

Why don't more people do it? The capital set up costs are large, even with the Government's rebate.
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I agree with Cricket. Wind isn't feasable unless you have a lot of land away from people that it would bother. Solar is great but pricey. however the cost of silicon is supposed to be dropping so government cost breaks might actual help a decent amount.
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I do not want to pay to be on a Grid system for Electricity any more.
I believe that with the proper stimulus package to help homeowners afford Wind and Solar technologies they would use to "get off the grid", most citizens would be interested provided if they could sell the unused energies back to “the Grid”.
I just thought of a good name for this policy "Have your cake and eat it power".
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We hear a lot about Energy Independence these days and Clean Energy Solutions,
I would like to know what is your idea of Clean Independent Energy Solutions?

I do not want to pay to be on a Grid system for Electricity any more.
I believe that with the proper stimulus package to help homeowners afford Wind and Solar technologies they would use to "get off the grid", .
To be independent of the grid using wind and, you would need energy storage facilities.
That may be a bit of a disincentive.
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Makes me shudder to think of the chaos to be wrought by several million numpties plugging in their new power units to the grid.
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Old 18th-May-2008, 12:27 PM
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If you were to check the FPL (one of the largest power groups in the US) careers page you would find that they are hiring for Wind Experts, lots of jobs for Wind Farming.
This is where I disagree with the solution, customers of FPL should be allowed to participate with the Wind Energy Solutions and FPL and the US Dept of Energy should "foot the bill' and finally apply your properties 'production' vs. your Electricity Bill.
Oh, my feelings are the same for Solar Wind Farming.

I googled Off the Grid this morning,
and right now the Environment Site is Ranked #5 , the #6 is the same piece written for my Local newspaper. The Jupiter Courier.

When I surfed the YouTube Videos I was impressed by the examples that individuals are currently applying to their situations to come 'off the Grid'.
One man claims that when the power outages do come, many friends and family members are going to migrate to his House.

Google Search below:

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If you own a 2-Acre lot you should be encouraged to own or lease 1 Wind Power station and a Solar Electricity Station for your residence that would reduce your impact on the Grid, or remove you from it entirely
If you have less property than 2 Acres you should be encouraged to own or lease a Solar Power Unit that would reduce your impact on the Grid, or remove you from it entirely.
Then you stick it outside nextdoors living room.And then?

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[color="Red"]Then you stick it outside nextdoors living room.And then?
That wasn't un the UK was it? People aren't supposed to be able to get planning permission here for the sitting of a wind turbine within the topple distance of a house (the one in your photo clearly was unless the picture has affected the perspective of the situation).

Also, wind farm design software can predict flicker effects before instalation so there shold not be any reason why a wind turbine should be located somewhere that would cause flicker in a neighbouring property unless the chances of it occuring are very occasional, maybe once a year (as it is related to the position of the sun relative to the wind turbine and the property) and the householder considers it realistic for their blinds/curtains to be closed at that time.
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