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29th-June-2005, 06:33 PM
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Forum Royalty
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shushilydv,
Like your industrial counterparts, you imagine destruction is the answer.
Instead, you should be advocating peaceful cooperation to live in balance.
If millions of people each decided to stop buying the products that are
killing the biosphere, the Earth and human civilization might survive.
Why don't you make up a list of those destructive products and offer
alternatives?
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3rd-July-2005, 08:23 AM
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Sapling
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Originally Posted by jaunty albatross
Instead, you should be advocating peaceful cooperation to live in balance.
If millions of people each decided to stop buying the products that are
killing the biosphere, the Earth and human civilization might survive.
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You mean billions of people. Deciding simultaneously. To do the same thing. Oh, and to not have the children they have yearned for for years.
Not likely. Not even plausible.
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3rd-July-2005, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by infoterrorist
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Originally Posted by jaunty albatross
Instead, you should be advocating peaceful cooperation to live in balance.
If millions of people each decided to stop buying the products that are
killing the biosphere, the Earth and human civilization might survive.
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You mean billions of people. Deciding simultaneously. To do the same thing. Oh, and to not have the children they have yearned for for years.
Not likely. Not even plausible.
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Why do you hate people so much? Life is a wonderful thing, how about you enjoy it and stop being so miserably and angry
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Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. - Oscar Wilde
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3rd-July-2005, 08:47 AM
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Sapling
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I don't hate people.
I hate overpopulation, and low quality of mind.
It kills the environment and all else!
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3rd-July-2005, 10:03 AM
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Forum Royalty
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"infoterror"
My suggestion may well be impossible, but then, if so, our civilization is
doomed to collapse from the accumulated toxins it is pouring into the
biosphere we depend on for our lives. Whatever the case, I must at least
try to warn as many prople as I can, even if it isn't enough, I have to try.
Obviously, from the gist of your posts, you are looking forward to picking
up the pieces and establishing a different social order more to your liking;
but I am telling you and anyone else who harbors such delusions - life on
Earth is a fragile network of biological relationships that, when pushed
beyond its adaptability, will collapse. So, neither you nor any other human
being will survive that collapse because there will be no life-support
system to sustain you, or anyone else.
For just one example, every day coal-fired power plants pump out tons of
pollution containing methyl mercury that circulates up through the
atmosphere and around the World, accumulating in the waters and soil,
so that now every living thing on Earth has some of it in their bodies, a
little more every day, until one by one, they get sick, like a human eating
contaminated salmon. At some point in time so much industrial toxins of
various kinds will have infected the bodies of living creatures on Earth,
including us, that everyone will be sick and dying.
Here is one list of a "dirty dozen" industrial pollutants :
1. aldrin, a pesticide
2. chlorine
3. ddt
4. dieldrin
5. dioxins
6. endrin
7. furans
8. heptachlor
9. hexchlorobenzene
10. mirex
11. polychlorinated biphenyls
12. toxaphene
Of course, this list is changing and growing as some are taken out of
circulation to be replaced by others, but the overall result is our bodies
are being slowly assaulted in ways no other life on Earth ever has before.
So, our physical ability to absorb, process and expell them is slightly
different in each individual and limited by however long it takes to cause
disease. Yet, as the human population grows, the number of people
buying industrial products also grows, which results in more garbage,
more sewage, more toxic residue, on and on, because all the corporations
and their politicians agree : "a growing economy is a healthy economy" -
even if it kills us ( ! )
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21st-October-2005, 05:38 PM
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Sapling
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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
Thanks everyone for your views and opinion.
Regarding Industrialization there is an important point to be noted. Modern Industrial Society has existed for 100 years - 200 years - 300 years. When we compare this period with the total duration for which human society has existed on earth this period is so short - so small that it almost does'nt exist. It is almost zero.
Material things don't bring peace and happiness. Today billions of people have got things which even Kings did not have in the past. Car, computer, television, fridge, telephone - no King ever had these things. But people are still restless and unhappy.
Consumerist-Lifestyle is just not sustainable. If we do not immediately return to living a very simple and frugal life then very soon there will be no human life on earth.
sushil yadav
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21st-October-2005, 06:59 PM
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Eco Nut
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Re: Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment
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Originally Posted by sushilydv
Consumerist-Lifestyle is just not sustainable. If we do not immediately return to living a very simple and frugal life then very soon there will be no human life on earth.
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"The balance of nature" is a myth.
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21st-October-2005, 07:03 PM
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Forum Royalty
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It's actually next Tuesday, 3:30pm. I've got it written down in my diary.
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21st-October-2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRobster
It's actually next Tuesday, 3:30pm. I've got it written down in my diary. 
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Nooo, I have a date with Kylie on Wednesday
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21st-October-2005, 07:39 PM
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Forum Royalty
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Unlucky.
By the way, I had her last week. She's rubbish.
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