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26th-February-2007, 02:00 PM
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Ward's look at cause of global warming
Earth and Planets part 1
That planets have enough power to influence activity on earth has long been ignored by Geologist and Meteorologists because there has been no method of proving such activity. Physicist George Isaac was the first to detected a wobble in the Sun from the effects of planetary movement, but no one pursued the idea to find out why. William Gray, professor of Meteorology in Colorado, was able to equate the warming of the Pacific ocean and El Ninos with hurricanes, he did not pursue the effect of the planets on the movement of magma beneath the ocean.
For the past 35 years I have been observing the effect of planets on earthquakes and weather in California and Volcanoes around the world through a computer program I wrote designed to show the relationship of forces produced by four systems of forces in the solar system. (1.) The effect of all of the planets on Jupiter in relation to the Sun along the Jupiter-Sun axis. (2.) The effect of all of the planets on Earth, along the Earth-Sun axis (3.) The effect of the Moon, along the Earth-Sun axis and (4.) The yearly system of the Sun. The program is designed with the theory that all exterior forces act on the center of mass of the liquid part of Earth which surrounds the Earth at three eighths its radius: that the liquid part of Earth expands and contracts with the orbital influence of planets: is dragged world wide by these forces and is the force that moves the continental plates around the Earth. The program uses an existing program designed by David Eagle of Colorado which calculate the position of all planets, including the Moon. Applying Isaac Newton’s formula, force equals mass1 times mass2 divided by the distance squared between them, to the daily distances from David Eagles’ work, given to me in 1979, a vectored force can be calculated for all historic events of earthquakes , volcanoes and weather. The Sun is the most powerful force and so overwhelmed the results of Planetary forces I had to treat it differently. Recording this information in a chart form, on a daily basis, and specifically for each historical event, one can see a planetary cycle of recurring events.
It was not until the hoopla occurred over the cause of global warming that I got into the fray. My data did not support the world consensus of scientists on global warming. It became obvious that my data needed to become available if nothing more than the restore confidence in science. What they don’t know they don’t know. There is no question the symptoms they have uncovered is true. There is no question that the burning of fossil fuels is bad for health but has little to do with global warming.
The rhythm of global cooling and global warming coincide with stress building and stress releasing periods within Earth. Each phase, from the lowest force to the highest force and back to the lowest force is about 900 years in time. The timing varies because of the disturbance of motion (perturbation) of planets. The lowest force marking the end of a global warming system, for example, is around 130 units of force as I calculate the force as compared to the highest force of around 2100 units of force. Generally, the rhythm of the march of the peaks of increasing stress building force and global cooling from the lowest to the highest or peak force is on the order of 59.5 years. The same rhythm is true for the march of the stress releasing force and global warming from the highest peak force to the lowest force.
The march of high peaks cause colder and colder winters and summers in the northern hemisphere. The low forces linger more than the high forces. The lower the force the more chance of the release of stored energy in the surface crust of Earth in the form of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and weather. The timing of these events depend on the rhythm of the planets with the Moon playing a major role in such timing because the Moon system moves forward at the rate of 3.7 miles per day acting on Earth with a rotating 27 day cone of force with a base of 3000 miles and a changing lever arm of more than 200,000 miles. Most all of volcanoes erupt during the stress releasing mode and, if science cared to measure, is probably the source of most of the CO2 in the atmosphere. All of the recorded disasters of the world killing millions of people have occurred in the lower end of the stress releasing phase.
As time and space allow, I hope to express my findings more fully in a readable format and I invite what ever criticism may be generated. I may not be able to answer all but I will try.
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26th-February-2007, 03:21 PM
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interesting, where are we now in the horoscopal cycle? how long will we be in this phase?
I don't understand some of your terminology, but I can understand that there would be influence. I don't see why this negates the forcing of green house gases on top of this and other related cycles.
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26th-February-2007, 03:33 PM
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Have you got a 1.2C rise in 60 year event yet, that correlates to climatic data from the various sources, recorded, tree rings, ice cores, etc, etc, to validate your model, also i presume your cyclic changes are due to differences in the total amount of irradiance getting to the earth from the sun or are you saying the grvitational effects of the planets and moon are somehow affecting global temperatures directly.
we need some direct evidence and correlations, CO2 theory has all these.
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26th-February-2007, 04:44 PM
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Have you got a 1.2C rise in 60 year event yet, that correlates to climatic data from the various sources, recorded, tree rings, ice cores, etc, etc, to validate your model, also i presume your cyclic changes are due to differences in the total amount of irradiance getting to the earth from the sun or are you saying the grvitational effects of the planets and moon are somehow affecting global temperatures directly.
we need some direct evidence and correlations, CO2 theory has all these.
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Yes, I will show evidence of that in further posts
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26th-February-2007, 05:04 PM
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interesting, where are we now in the horoscopal cycle? how long will we be in this phase?
I don't understand some of your terminology, but I can understand that there would be influence. I don't see why this negates the forcing of green house gases on top of this and other related cycles.
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This is not horoscopal but applied engineering knowledge to the solar system. There will be some spikes of global cooling between now and the winter of 2119, but the phase is mostly global warming. The question is not one of influence but one of magnitude. The lowest stress releasing force will occur in February 2052. Stress building and stress releasing are synonymous with global cooling and warming. Terminology is important to understand, so ask and I will explain if I can.
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26th-February-2007, 07:00 PM
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There is no question the symptoms they have uncovered is true. There is no question that the burning of fossil fuels is bad for health but has little to do with global warming.
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Nothing here supports this statement, we can all accept that there are influences such as those you describe and that they have an effect but as was said earlier nothing which you describe discounts the forcing effect of anthropogenic GHG's. You don't explain our current anomalous trend, it does not appear to fit simple cyclic patterns, there certainly appears to be another influence.
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Most all of volcanoes erupt during the stress releasing mode and, if science cared to measure, is probably the source of most of the CO2 in the atmosphere.
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The fact that you mentioned the last point would imply that you think CO2 has an effect, which contradicts your earlier sentiments. If not then as simple has said, do you think these forces alone are causing warming somehow? If so what mechanism achieves this, it is beyond anything I'm aware of? Volcanoes and such things may originally be responsible for much of the CO2 in the atmosphere, however the recent increased atmospheric concentrations can not be correlated with increased volcanic activity to any degree. It does correlate with anthropogenic emissions. If you are attributing our warming to volcanic activity I would like to point out that volcanic activity generally results in a global cooling, the high levels of particulates volcanoes pump into the upper atmosphere block out a lot of radiation and many temporary cold snaps coincide with these events, so your model may have some value in looking at shorter cooling events. Our major problem currently is a massive warming event though and I don't really feel you address that issue.
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27th-February-2007, 06:29 AM
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Re: Ward's look at cause of global warming
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As time and space allow, I hope to express my findings more fully in a readable format and I invite what ever criticism may be generated. I may not be able to answer all but I will try.
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I suggest you publish your findings and data. The key is to offer it up as a piece of the puzzle which is what it may be. You are correct about faith in science being compromised and I believe it is due to a misguided tendency for scientists to lobby for acceptance of their theories as the end-all-be-all answers. This is a direct contradiction of scientific principle and demonstrates a flaw in current protocal. With such a complex and chaotic system to understand, egotistical scientists have no business pushing a political agenda..unless, of course, it is business. Observers must learn to delineate between objective science and business/politics...not an easy task I might add.
Ok, enough banter (sorry)  .
Thank you for sharing your research and I for one look forward to you shedding some new light on the subject.
We discuss these sorts of breakthroughs at length on this forum: HERE
I invite you to post your views and data on that thread for the archive when you find time.
Regards,
~Paradox
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28th-February-2007, 11:09 PM
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The physics of Earth
The physics of Earth
The chart below is a visual representation of a thousand years, from 2000 to 3000, of the stress building and stress releasing forces by the Jupiter system along the Jupiter-Sun axis, caused by the all planets.
The dots capture the date and force as the outer planets pass one another on each side of the Sun resolved along the Jupiter Sun axis. The chart is linear from high force to low force based on daily algebraic summations of forces of planets as they move through the solar system. The forces are resolved into two forces: stress building as planets move toward each other and stress releasing as they move away from each other.
In all planets, heat is generated by stress building and lost by stress releasing. During stress building the heat is used as specific heat to raise the temperate of the rock. Once the melting point of the rock is reached, the heat is used as latent heat to change the state of the rock to liquid. Some of the latent heat is taken from the specific heat of the surrounding rock cooling the rock. The opposite takes place during stress releasing. The latent heat to change the liquid to rock is transferred to the rock as specific heat raising the temperature of the rock.
One degree increase or decrease of Celsius heat causes one cubic feet of iron to expand or contract 1.198 ten millionth of a foot per foot or 253 feet across 4000 miles being the radius of Earth. The surface area of the liquid toward the surface of Earth is 7.5 times greater than the surface area toward the center of Earth. The discrepancy between the two surface areas is taken up more so in the mantle and crust of Earth than in the iron core center, giving the Earth the appearance of breathing. Stress building tightens the surface plates of Earth and loosens them during stress releasing.

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1st-March-2007, 01:00 AM
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The program is designed with the theory that all exterior forces act on the center of mass of the liquid part of Earth which surrounds the Earth at three eighths its radius: that the liquid part of Earth expands and contracts with the orbital influence of planets: is dragged world wide by these forces and is the force that moves the continental plates around the Earth.
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That'd have to be some force to move that much mass around. If anything, given that gravity obeys the inverse square law rule, I would have thought the moon would have the greatest effect and that the influence of other planets would be negligable.
Also plate tectonic theory is pretty well established and accepted, you'd have to have some very convincing evidence in order to debunk the current theories. For example, as far as I know the drift of the North American and European plates is supposed to be due to the Mid Atlantic Ridge. I've never heard of any theory even suggest that plate tectonics has anything to do with the gravitational pull of other planets in the solar system.
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1st-March-2007, 09:36 AM
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In all planets, heat is generated by stress building and lost by stress releasing.
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Can we proof of this please, that stress caused by the planet alignments causes the centres of planets to heat and cool?
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