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20th-February-2008, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wardengineering
I have explained the modes of stress building and stress releasing in previous threads.
The program I wrote uses Nasa's ephemerides for planet positions. I have used Newton's formula, MXM divided by the square of the distance between planets, and applied it to the Jupiter-Sun axis and the Earth-Sun axis. I have resolved the accummulated force into four systems of force: the Jupiter system on the Sun, the Planet system on the Earth, The moon system on the Earth and the Sun system on the Earth. The effect of the Sun overwhelmed the systems, so I reduced the Sun mass so I could see the effect of the planets.
As planets move toward each other their mass is added to each per Newton's law. The calculations result in a vectored system with magnitude of force and direction. That is why the Moon is such a big player as a triggering device. The sudden move across an intersection of a planet system of force or the planet itself at the right timing jars impending movements along fault lines where a constant force is being applied or in the case of volcanoes creates enough force to an impeding eruption to break through to the surface as I think is happening at the Cerro Prieta site.
In the preceeding pages, I have explained my ideas on how the system works. For the most part, I am alone with those conclusions as you and others demonstrate.
The math is simple amd straight forward except for my treatment of the Sun mass and can be duplicated by anyone interested in the exercise and the computer can resolve the calculation.
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That doesn't answer any of the questions.
If there is a post that explains stress releasing mode, please link to it.
Saying that you use Newtons law doesn't provide the mathematics. What equations and numbers have you used?
You talk about the start of the current warming period. Do you mean the one that is attributable to radiative forcing from the anthropogenic greenhouse effect - as in since 1950? Or do you mean since before the next to last turn of the century? Or some other period? Why do I have to ask these questions as multi choice? Is not: What period do you refer to well defined enough?
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20th-February-2008, 11:59 PM
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Start at Page 1 posted February 26, 2007 which explains the forces involved. The chart following on that page shows the Jupiter system of force. The low points on the chart represent global warming and the high points represent global cooling. There is a progression toward global cooling on a rhythm of 60 years and the same toward global warming. The volume of low points is the beginning of global cooling starting about 1050AD. The high peak is the beginning of global warming. The whole system from low to high to low takes about 1000 years.
1623AD was the peak of the last global cooling period. As the chart shows there are peaks and valleys moving from cooling to warming and back all through the stretch of time. The next cooling period will begin in 2052AD. Until then we will experience the same short rhythms of the past.
The global warming period for the period covering 1950 started with a peak in January 1941.
There was a low point in 1950 extending through 1954, then rising to a peak in 1961 falling back to a low in 1967 through 1968. This rhythm is typical for the rest of the century with ever increasing lower high peaks with low points at about the same level.
The coordinate for each planet is given by NASA. The distance between planets is derived by a^2+b^2=c^2. Mass is published in most text books on astronomy. Positioning them on this axis or that axis involves the same formula. What more do you need to Know?
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21st-February-2008, 12:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wardengineering
.The global warming period for the period covering 1950 started with a peak in January 1941.
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21st-February-2008, 04:07 PM
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The M6.3 earthquake in eastern Nevada this morning should have some influence on their thinking as to the effect of planets on the mechanism of earthquakes, volcanoes and global warming.
Soon I will be posting the research I have done on Volcanoes using my solar system program.
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Last edited by wardengineering; 23rd-February-2008 at 03:56 PM.
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24th-February-2008, 05:47 PM
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Jupiter system of force effect on volcanoes
Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are energy releases within the Earth. Volcanic eruptions are the best measure of the effect of the Jupiter system of force. During global cooling periods, all of the planets and the Moon are moving closer together adding their respective mass to each other and to Earth. During global warming periods the opposite takes place.
During a global cooling period, the liquid core grows storing latent heat. The outer surface of the liquid core has more surface than the inner surface proportional to the surface of each, so that most of the latent heat is stored in the outer surface. The increased mass of closer proximity of planets not only creates more heat but tightens the surface crust creating pressure within the Earth.
The decreased mass from global warming as planets scatter, causes the crust to weaken allowing movement of stored energy to be released along with the release of latent heat.
The eruption of a volcano requires stored heat and pressure within the Earth. The constantly changing positions of the planets modulate the intensity of both the storage and releases of the energy.
My solar system program keeps track of the changing positions of the planets on a quantitative basis both as to magnitude and direction.
Each of the specific dates of events can be reconstructed to show how the planets were influencing the event.
The tightening and loosening of the crust can be seen in the Jupiter system of force as it moves up the scale and the number of eruptions is reduced. Then, as the force moves down the scale, eruptions increase. The Jupiter system of force(JSOF) has a range from 116 to 2092.
I have a “volcan” file containing 61 dates and names of volcanoes recorded around the world from 79AD to the present. The limited number of recorded eruption dates, probably represent the most destructive events.
Vesuvius lists eighteen dates. The first with a Jupiter System of force(JSOF) of 225 was August 24, 79 AD as described by Pliny the younger and December 14, 1631 with a JSOF of 177 both of which destroyed Pompei and Herculaneum. The latter event occurred 8 years after the highest peak of the present millennium. Eruptions during releasing systems, is typical of most eruptions.
The highest JSOF of any volcanic eruption recorded was 1699 with the Mt Lassen eruption of February 2, 1921. This eruption was 7 years after the first eruption May 29, 1914 with a JSOF of 179. The lowest JSOF recorded was 124 with the eruption of Vesuvius April 28, 1872.
Only four were recorded with JSOF above 1500 demonstrating that increased mass of closer proximity of planets prevents eruptions.
Six were recorded with JSOF between 917 and 1093.
Mt Baker with a JSOF 1082 August 8, 1863 and a JSOF 917 December 3, 1899,
ST Helens with a JSOF 1000 May 20, 1800 and a JSOF 1061 November 22, 1842
Pele with a JSOF 1020 June 8, 1783 and Laki with a JSOF 1093 May 8, 1902.
Vesuvius had two eruptions with JSOF 1180 and JSOF 1173 (only the year was recorded on the last two: 512 and 1882 respectively).
31 of the 61 of the events were recorded with JSOF less than 200 demonstrating the decreased mass of most distant proximity of planets releases energy.
27 of the dates of volcanic events occurred in the same year with large earthquakes in California:
You will note that many of the eruptions occurred near the June 21 solstice.
The eruptions of Mt St Helens and Mt Lassen near the west coast of North America both had eruptions in May, one month before the June solstice. Lassen started its series of eruptions May 29, 1914 with a JSOF of 179 then hit the big time with the eruption of May 22, 1915 at JOSF of 201. Sixty five years later on May 18, 1980 with a JOSF of 1426, Mt St Helens came to life. 180 years earlier, on the sixty year rhythm, Mt St Helens erupted on May 20, 1800 and 42 years later on November 22, 1842. The six month between the time of year of the last mentioned two eruptions suggest the Sun was involved along with the Jupiter-Saturn encounter of a 20 years rhythm and the Jupiter-Saturn-Uranus-Neptune encounter of a 22 years rhythm.
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24th-February-2008, 06:40 PM
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7th-March-2008, 06:54 PM
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Katrina
Katrina began to form over Bahamas Lat 25°39’N, Long 77°13’W
August 25, 2005
zenith of sun was Lat 10°37’N, Long 1°59’W
Zenith of Moon(18.6) Lat 10’37N, Long 115°W
Zenith of Moon(28.40) Lat 22N, 175°E, moving away from Earth and the Sun.
Perigee august 19 28.40 days, apogee September 1
All systems of force were decreasing: a feature of global warming.
The Jupiter system of force 300 at 14% of Maximum
The Planet system of force 9.1 at 43% of Maximum
The western edge of the Sun cone of force was 21.6° west of the zenith of the Sun at Long 24°W under the Atlantic Ocean.
The reduced force on the Earth from all system released the latent heat and placed more heat at the point of contact of the Moon Cone of force on the liquid core as it was being dragged on a bearing of S79°23°W.
The northern edge of the Sun cone of force was being dragged on the same bearing as the Sun, Lat 32°N
August 29, the Zenith of the Sun was 9°09’N, Long 74°48’W.
On the August 25, 2005 the Sun and Moon were 2177 miles apart. Their respective cones of force were overlapping by at least 1000 miles.
Every day the Moon cone of force was moving over the same area as the Moon moved through the full Moon phase, dragging the liquid core farther north each day.
Every day more and more heat from the liquid core was placed at the point of contact as both cones of force of the Moon and Sun were overlapping and converging.
The northern edge of the Moon cone of force, where most of the concentration of heat was making contact with the surface, was moving S79°23’W from lat 46°54’N measured on the east side of the Atlantic Ocean in the early morning of the 25th,crossing the ocean picking up heat and electricity as it moved.
Two physical events took place. The electrical field accumulated by the cones of force was released at the Bermuda land fall changing the vertical weather dynamic of the atmosphere. The second phenomena occurred when the as the north half of the Moon cone of force reach land,
Land fall would have insolated the surface from the heat below, first, the north half of the Moon cone of force and, second, as the day progressed, the north half of the trailing Sun cone of force, thus cooling the atmosphere over the land.
The southern edge of both cones of force would have continued to heat the Gulf of Mexico. The two forces working together over the same area would have produced more than usual heat. The difference of heat between ocean and land fall worked to change the direction of the storm.
The same solar configuration occurred October 1, 883, June 5, 924, December 28, 963, march 7, 1122, November 24, 1568, March 21, 1976 and September 2, 2005.
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8th-March-2008, 12:30 AM
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It has been pretty much proved that the rubbish you spew is batshit-mental, give it up please.
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13th-March-2008, 08:19 PM
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An example of what the Sun and Moon can do are three earthquakes in California between March 7 and March 9, 2008.
M3.5 March 7, 2008 Jacumba Hot Springs at 11:39PM; the Moon went past Mercury, Venus and Neptune about 10:00AM then New Moon, the Sun and Uranus clearing them all when the earthquake struck.
M4.0 March 9, 2008 Fontana at 1:22PM; the Sun was one hour past noon Zenith with Sun and Moon both in a releasing force mode.
M3.4 March 9, 2008 Willits at 10:14PM; the Moon was close Perigee still in a releasing mode with both Sun and Moon. The Moon was in a 25 day rhythm.
The same solar configuration will appear on the 14th, with the Moon aligning with Mars.
While the Sun drags the liquid core generally in a western direction with greater force toward perihelion then to aphelion and back to perihelion, the Moon modules the direction with both its 28 days +/- rhythm and the 18.6 years rhythm. The direction of the Moon system of force moves 5° above and below, the Earth’s yearly elliptical orbit giving it a zenith range of 28.5° on either side of the Earth’s equator.
The planet system of force will peak on July 14, 2008 at the same time as the Moon reaches apogee with a Moon rhythm of 28.15 days, suggesting a number of larger earthquake in California and around the world. October 11, 1891 there was an M6 at Napa, Ca.
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14th-March-2008, 01:52 PM
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Global warming is a real problem
In a 2007 report published by the a United Nations scientific panel on climate Change, reported that “evidence of a warming trend is ‘unequivocal,’ and that human activity has ‘very likely’ attributed to it”. Still not convinced? Ok, the Nobel Prize Committee was. So much so, that they gave Gore and his UN panel the Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of their efforts to bring awareness to the growing climate change issue.
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