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5th-October-2007, 06:47 PM
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The drought referred to in the California water news below is not someone’s dream. It is a cool headed look at the future and not an inconvenient truth. The worst is yet to come until about the summer of 2012. Not until after September 2017 will there be any relief in the world wide global warming system and then it will be a short lived period of global cooling to November 2020 returning to global warming until March of 2035. The only history that can give one a clue as to what to expect today happened during the years following about 1057. For example, Macbeth was the king of Scotland killed in battle in 1057 from invading Malcolm succeeding king of Scotland. Seven centuries of carnage followed in England and Scotland. Were these events indicative of our present conditions of unrest throughout the world?
Department of Water Resources
California Water News
Water shortages in California Mounting.
We're starting this water year -- which could be the record year of a drought -- in a hole," Department of Water Resources Director Lester Snow said Tuesday at a news conference in Sacramento.
According to the Board of Supervisors' resolution, western Fresno County might receive no more than 45% of its usual water allocation from state and federal facilities. A lack of water will trigger changes in crop patterns and force farmers to leave land empty that might otherwise grow fruits, vegetables or other field crops.
In turn, that means fewer jobs, higher food prices and lagging business. Jose Antonio Ramirez, city manager in Firebaugh, said farmers aren't going to risk planting crops if they don't know how they'll obtain water.
Ramirez and others said farmers also will turn to more ground-water pumping. That could create other problems, such as taxing municipal water supplies in communities dependent on ground water.
The statewide figures released this week paint a gloomy picture of California's water supply. Sierra snowmelt ended early this year, and the state's overall precipitation was 35% to 40% below average, according to the water resources department.
In the San Joaquin River region, the year finished as the eighth-driest year on record, preliminary estimates show. As a result, the state's major reservoirs don't hold nearly the amount of water they normally do at this time of year.
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10th-October-2007, 07:52 PM
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The Jupiter system of force drives the global warming and global cooling. The other planets regulate the intensity and local conditions.
The managers of the Shasta Dam reservoir in California reported a record low level of the reservoir in 1977. There was a 15 year low in 1992 and reaching below that level in 2007, but neither the 1992 level nor the 2007 level reached as low as the 1977 level.
The Jupiter system of force began to dip below 400 in 1964 and remained low until 1977. 20 years later 1984 it again began to dip below 400 and began go above 400 in 1997. There was a peak in 2000 and in 2004 again was dipping below 400. It will go above 400 in 2017.
The 20 year interval is close to the rhythm of Jupiter and Saturn intersections on the Jupiter-Sun axis. It takes about 100 years for that system to work its way around the Sun to come back to square one and about 344 years to be close to the center of square one.
The Jupiter-Neptune time to reach square one is 64 years and Jupiter-Uranus to square one is 69 years. For all of them to get together at square one takes about 850 years.
There is no question in my mind that we are experiencing, at the least, a 344 year system and more probably one of a thousand year system. There are 40 years between 1997 and 2017 or two revolutions of the Jupiter-Saturn rhythm.
In my opinion, this evidence is a barometer of a solar wide system. It would be well for governmental institutions around the world to take heed and research their local conditions for the last 40 years to determine the proper actions to take now to help them prepare for the coming events.
There is a great deal of history in California from 1850 that can be used to gage the events that might take place in the next 20 years. Other places around the world have longer histories than California from which to gage events.
Subtract 20 year intervals from the present date and look for events in your area. You may be surprised at what you find.
In our country events began to take place in 1607.
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16th-October-2007, 06:32 PM
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End of year earthquakes
I have noted in my California earthquake file that a number of events have occurred near the December solstice. The Sumatra earthquake of 12/26/2004 and Mt St Helens return to active state at the same time are also examples.
I ran a search using 12/26/2007 and found eight earthquake events that happened in history with the present planet configuration from December 1, to February 2.
These are the following search results.
San Simeon 2/1/1853 - 1 pm. VIII. San Simeon, San Luis Obispo County. -- Violent shocks. Houses were injured
Ft Yuma 1/10/1853
Ft Yuma 12/14/1853 – dairy at the time reports volcanic activity nearby. This event and the present planet configuration may be indicative of the volcanic activity in California.
“The first mention of an earthquake that likely originated in the Colorado Delta is found in the diary of Friar Eixarch.18 Eixarch did not venture into the delta region himself, but he was visiting with Indians who went there frequently. Eixarch was encamped at the future site of Fort Yuma, along with a Yuman chief named Palma. The entry for April 25,1776, tells us: "At night there was an earthquake, but it was of short duration. Since I had never experienced such a thing, I was frightened to see how the hill shook. Palma told me that it always does this whenever the river wishes to rise, saying that the earth usually trembles three or four times." The entry for April 26 adds: "About nine o'clock in the forenoon the earthquake was repeated, although very lightly." This short sequence of shocks probably originated in the delta region, possibly along the Cerro Prieto Fault
The first dramatic display of the mud volcanoes in historic times was triggered by the earthquake of November 29, 1852.20 On that day, at twenty minutes past noon, a violent quake was felt at Fort Yuma. "The most extraordinary circumstance was down the river [from the fort] in a W.S.W. direction some 20 or 25 miles in a straight line where immense columns of white steam rose to a great height."21 "The appearance of this column with its narrow base and its wide expanded top was most beautiful; it was supposed to be the steam arising from a hot spring which had just found its way to the surface. This column of steam lasted but a few minutes. Twice within a quarter of an hour two much smaller columns were seen to arise and disappear."22
Again, on the morning of December 7, "a large column of steam was seen to rise from the same point seen the other day. It was in two jets in close succession."23 Several large jets of steam were seen again on the 10th and several more on the 11th. Major Heintzelman decided to make a journey to the source of the steam jets and left with a party of five on the morning of the 12th, returning one week later. What they saw on their trip amazed them all: The ground is quite flat and there are some hundred or more orifices emitting steam and gasses; some rising out of conical hillocks of mud, from a few inches to 8 or 10 feet high. The principal craters are in ponds of very liquid black mud, one containing three or four cones of an oval form and the others only a few yards across. The principal one bubbles all the time, but every ten or 15 minutes on an average there is a grand eruption throwing up the mud from 60 to 70 feet into the air and the steam and gasses rising many hundreds. The first jet seen on the 29th Nov. must have been 1000 feet high, as it was seen at least 50 miles in a straight line and thus appeared to rise above the tops of the coast range of mountains in rear. At these successive eruptions the pond is lashed into large waves which break like the surf on the shore throwing the mud high in the air. The beautiful snowy steam rising from the black lake below and inlaid with dark streaks and drips has a magnificent effect. Then successive eruptions are accompanied with a rumbling sound, at a distance resembling the report of heavy canon.
The Major's diary entry for January 10, 1853, reads: "The volcano has been active again. . .The steam has been escaping in large volumes. One was seen high threw the mountains beyond." The entry for March 19,1853, reads: "Andrews says he saw more larger and big continued jets of steam rising in the direction of the volcano as he was passing from New River to the 'Alamo Mucho.' " Aftershocks were noted by Major Heintzelman through September 5, 1853, and occurred on all the days that steam jets were seen. It has been deduced that the curvature of the earth requires an object to be at least 800 feet in height above the volcanoes in order to be seen by an observer at Fort Yuma, which was situated on a knob some 100 feet above the desert plain.26 Thus, all the steam jets seen from the fort probably shot over 1000 feet high. The steam column which "rose to a great height" on November 29 must have risen considerably higher than that. In case one was wondering whether the Major was all excited about the earthquake business, he need look no further than the diary entry for December 24, 1852: "... .This is the second dull Christmas for me at this place.. .A little before ten last night we had a considerable shock of an earthquake, lasted near half a minute...."
The Obsidian Butte is SW of Yuma about 77 miles on the south end of the Salton Sea, now you see it, now you don’t. In 1891, Mother Nature started what Wozencraft proposed. E. B. Preston, wrote in the Eleventh Report of the [California] State Mineralogist (1893), that "In the month of June, 1891, a steady flow of water entered the depression from the southeast and continued to the northwest uninterruptedly until an area 30 miles long and averaging 10 miles in width was covered to a depth of 6 feet."
To this body of water was given the name "Salton Lake." The name was derived from the high saline content of the lake. At first, an underground connection to the Gulf of California was suspected to explain the salinity. Eventually it was determined that the water entering Salton Lake was fresh, from the Colorado River. The saltiness was due to the enormous rate of evaporation which concentrated the tiny sodium chloride content of the river. The salinity of Salton Lake was so great that the New Liverpool Salt Company established a facility to produce a fine quality of table salt from the water.
In 1901, the California Development Company built the first canal system to divert water from the Colorado River to the Imperial Valley for the purposes of irrigation. The canal system functioned well for several years until, in 1905, unusually high floods overwhelmed the canal system and destroyed the regulating machinery. For a period of time the Salton Sea received the full, uncontrolled flow of the Colorado River.
Over the next two years, the Southern Pacific Railroad Company attempted to repair the breach. Underestimating the power of the Colorado River, their control structures were repeatedly washed away. Finally, in 1907, the river was sealed, but only after 350,000 acres of land had been flooded. Today some of that land has been reclaimed by the lowering of the Salton Sea through evaporation. Presently, the Salton Sea, fed by runoff from irrigation, has reached equilibrium with the rate of evaporation and stands at 235 feet below sea level. 27
Planet configuration for 12/24/1852
Lunar apogee 12/21/1853 @ 28.2 days, one day before full moon.
Moon long 88 and Jupiter system of force angle @ 53. The earthquake occurred as the Moon angle intersected the planet Jupiter angle with Earth and one day after the intersection of the Jupiter system of force.
Jupiter system of force @ 8%
Planet system of force @ 38%
Planet configuration for 1/10/1853
Lunar perigee 1/6/1853 @ 28.0 days, one day past new moon.
Moon long 308 and Jupiter system of force angle @ 54 showing that the earthquake occurred as the Moon angle intersected the Jupiter system of force.
Jupiter system of force @ 8%
Planet system of force @ 38%
Calexico 12/30/1934
Calexico 12/30/1934
Brawley 1/24/1951
Los Angeles 12/25/1951
Klamath, Ore 12/02/1994
San Fernando 1/17/1994
There are several reasons for this activity after the winter solstice. The yearly movement of the Earth back toward the Sun would have a stress building mode from the summer solstice and the releasing stress mode after December 21st. Under the appropriate solar force system weakness and Moon timing, small releases of strain would take place as global warming increased the volume of the liquid core. At some points accumulated strain releases would take place. A good example is the 10/16/2007 M4.2 event at about 2AM at Wrightwood, Ca. a few miles south of Palmdale on the San Andreas fault. All force systems except Sun are releasing. The event was probably trigger by the Moon passing apogee earlier on the 13th and crossing opposite the longitude of the Jupiter system of force.
The April 24, 1776 had the following planet configuration.
Lunar apogee 4/28/1776 @ 27.8 days, at 1st quarter moon.
Moon long 118 and Jupiter system of force angle @ 223. The earthquake occurred as the Moon angle intersected the Planet system of force at 85 with the major forces low and releasing.
Jupiter system of force @ 9%
Planet system of force @ 42%
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20th-October-2007, 09:18 PM
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The meltdown of Greenland's way of life
In the Arctic, a shockingly sudden retreat of the ice is changing everything
San Francisco Chronicle – 10/19/07
Colin Woodard, Chronicle Foreign Service
Lakes and ponds of open water are scattered across its cracking surface, some feeding streams that vanish into moulins - drain-like cavities about 40 feet across that pierce the bottom of mile-thick ice. Approaching the edge of the ice, mountain summits poke out like islands. Glaciers tumble toward the sea, where this year they discharged ice at an unprecedented rate in this self-governing province of Denmark. Melting at the top of the ice sheet was the greatest ever recorded, 150 percent more than average, according to a new NASA-sponsored study.
"The rate of melting is just phenomenal," said Robert Correll, chairman of the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, an international scientific monitoring project. "We're adding freshwater to the ocean at a much more rapid rate than predicted" by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's most recent estimates, which are based on data through 2005.
Studies show that Greenland is undergoing a rapid meltdown, one with severe consequences for global sea-level rise and the 56,000 people who live on the world's largest island. Scientists report that glaciers draining the ice cap are picking up speed, while Arctic sea ice shrank this summer to its smallest extent on record, defying computer models that suggested such changes would not occur for decades.
"Arctic sea ice looks like it's reached the tipping point," said Robert Bindschadler, a polar ice expert at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "The suddenness of these changes we've seen in the Arctic over the past five years have really startled us, and we've been struggling to understand what is going on."
In Ilulissat, 200 miles north of the Arctic Circle, the town's 4,500 residents have seen the changes firsthand.
The Jakobshavn glacier, a 3-mile-wide, nearly 1 mile-thick tongue of ice that pours into the sea next to the town, has been picking up speed for years. A decade ago it flowed at between 2 and 21/2 miles a year, filling Disko Bay with icebergs flowed 9 miles - 61/2 feet an hour - adding enough freshwater to the oceans daily to meet the annual needs of any of the world's mega cities, according to Correll.
The icebergs haven't harmed Ilulissat residents, who are enjoying an economic boom fueled by tourism and fishing. Local fishermen ply the waters in and around the decomposing glacial front, pulling up enough halibut to keep the town's two fish plants running round-the-clock, seven days a week.
"We fish right by the icebergs," said Karl Thumassen, a local fisherman. "It was better 20 years ago, but it's still pretty good."
The lack of sea ice is another serious matter.
No roads connect Greenland's main towns - the island is too rugged, harsh and sparsely populated to make them feasible - meaning the prime modes of travel are by air (prohibitively expensive) or sea. In winter, ship travel is dangerous, so in central and northern Greenland, most people travel across the frozen sea by dog sled.
But in Ilulissat, the sea hasn't frozen solid for nearly a decade, wiping out the livelihoods of the country's subsistence hunters and isolating thousands more throughout the long, dark Arctic winter.
"It's as if somebody came to you and said, 'We're going to take your car away in mid-September and give it back to you in May or June,' " said Minik Rosing, a Greenland-born geologist at the University of Copenhagen who discovered the earliest evidence of life on Earth in Greenland's rocks. "It's a massive disruption to the way you live and perceive yourself."
Ilulissat's 5,000 sled dogs - who outnumber town residents - have been out of work for so long, their owners have exiled them to a lonely plain on the edge of town, where they bark and howl between meals. In the far north, hunters say they have a hard time feeding their dogs, which normally dine on seal and polar bear scraps. In 2004, the government had to airlift dog food to the northern settlement of Qaanaq to prevent mass starvation.
"It has been documented that (this) region will be most hard hit by the rising emission of greenhouse gases," said Aleqa Hammond, finance and foreign minister of Greenland's home rule government, which controls most local affairs. "But we don't need to read scientific documents and interpret highly complex mathematical models or charts. You can (tell) by living here and talking to the local people about what is changing."
Not all of the changes are for the worse.
In the far south, where a more temperate climate allows limited farming, the growing season is getting longer, and new areas are opening up for cultivation.
"It will be very exciting to see how the land will change in the next 20 years," said Tommy Maro, the mayor of Qaqortoq, the region's principal town. "Maybe we will have more sheep farmers, more green areas, more things we can grow."
Potato farming has expanded in size and area, with spuds now grown in the capital, Nuuk, which is just 185 miles south of the Arctic Circle. Near the southern village of Qassiarsuk, farmers say they succeeded in growing broccoli for the first time this year.
"Here in south Greenland, we are now approaching the climate conditions of northern Europe," said local elder Erik Rode Frederiksen. Like 90 percent of Greenland's inhabitants, Frederiksen is an Inuit, the indigenous inhabitants of the Arctic, whose culture is based on hunting and fishing. A milder climate, he says, will require a new generation of southern Greenlanders to take up agriculture.
Scientists say the accelerated melt will have decidedly negative effects for the globe, as it is certain to boost sea levels. The most recent assessment by the U.N. climate change panel forecast a surge of between 8 inches and 2 feet by 2100, but scientists say the rapidly melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica have already rendered those estimates obsolete.
Correll, who was in Greenland last month, described one such effect at work on the island. Just a few years ago, scientists didn't think meltwater could penetrate to the bottom of the ice sheet, but in recent years that's exactly what moulins have done.
"These holes have been built by all this swirling, melting water, and they are going straight to the base, where the water lubricates the bottom," he said. "It's as if we put oil on the bottom of the ice, so it's moving much more rapidly."
As for sea-level rise, Correll said most scientists in the field would argue that it will be "the upper part of a meter" (3 feet 3 inches) this century, roughly twice the current estimates, though nobody knows exactly how the Greenland ice sheet will behave as water intrudes underneath.
"We can't discount the possibility of an abrupt change, the equivalent of a sudden avalanche of snow," Correll said. "We don't think that will happen here, but there are these possibilities."
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The references to “Models now obsolete”, “rising emission of greenhouse gases”, “the climate approaching that of Europe” and “Just a few years ago, scientists didn't think meltwater could penetrate to the bottom of the ice sheet” speaks volumes that the scientific community is still ignoring the obvious: the present planet orientation similarity to 1000 years ago. It also describes the reluctance of accepted community fixed models of thought to change.
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21st-October-2007, 06:17 PM
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Kernville earthquakes
The following data are a number of earthquakes at a site about 60 miles from my home in California. All of them were on the same fault except one 8 miles away and along another fault. The faults are in a granite mountain. Using Google Earth the location of both sites each can be seen in an obviously eroded valley along the fault. This is consistent with granite structures. The fault is a slippage crack that runs deep into the mountain. Water from rainfall migrates along such faults and accumulates at intersecting faults.
Hard rock wells can be drilled into these areas and water can be found ranging from a trace to several hundred gallons per minute. The lower on the mountain the more water cam be found.
The water traveling along the crack creates a magnetic field. The fault may not be so visible on the surface as this site but the water can be detected using clothes hanger wires. Straightening the wire and bending a handle as a grip for each hand, the strike of the magnetic field of the water running along the crack can be detected as the wires line up with the direction of the flow. I have been successful, using this method, with three wells at my home on the side of a granite mountain. My home of 60 acres is at 3000 feet elevation with 3000 feet of mountain to the ridge above several miles distance. Neither of the wells was on the same crack. One produced 100 gallons per minute and one about 500 feet higher measured 40 gallons per minute. One about level with the larger flow produced 50 gallons per minute. The strength of the field, and no doubt the volume of the water, was apparent by the reaction of the wires.
There were no intersections of the Moon system of force with planet system of force associated with the earthquakes. The apogee of the Moon preceded the earthquakes by 4 days with the Moon period about 28.2 days and movement toward a longer period indicating a weakening planet system of force. All forces except the Sun were in a releasing mode. However the outer edge of the cone of the Sun system of force was the releasing force in this case. The only significant data was the timing of the earthquakes, almost on an hourly basis, as the Earth turned from a noon zenith directly south of the site to a midnight zenith on the opposite side of the Earth. The strain was released in small increments of movements most probably in a upward vertical direction since all systems of force were releasing, the location was stationary and the Earth was turning at close to 90 degrees to the direction of the fault.
Kernville, CA Depth
m1.3 2007/10/17 23:14:48 35.760N 118.367W 9.4 6 km ( 4 mi) ENE
m1.0 2007/10/17 22:06:59 35.769N 118.368W 5.7 6 km ( 4 mi) ENE
m1.4 2007/10/17 21:51:06 35.764N 118.366W 7.2 6 km ( 4 mi) ENE
m1.7 2007/10/17 21:12:51 35.914N 118.360W 12.5 20 km (12 mi) NNE
m1.1 2007/10/17 20:56:59 35.760N 118.367W 8.3 6 km ( 4 mi) ENE
m1.4 2007/10/17 20:56:22 35.762N 118.370W 8.8 6 km ( 3 mi) ENE
m0.8 2007/10/17 20:42:53 35.756N 118.360W 9.9 6 km ( 4 mi) E
m0.8 2007/10/17 20:38:36 35.755N 118.358W 10.6 6 km ( 4 mi) E
m1.7 2007/10/17 20:28:49 35.764N 118.371W 7.4 5 km ( 3 mi) ENE
m1.1 2007/10/17 19:45:24 35.772N 118.372W 4.9 6 km ( 4 mi) ENE
m0.9 2007/10/17 19:37:26 35.753N 118.361W 9.1 6 km ( 4 mi) E
m0.8 2007/10/17 18:37:36 35.752N 118.358W 10.8 6 km ( 4 mi) E
m1.0 2007/10/17 18:18:28 35.765N 118.371W 6.0 6 km ( 3 mi) ENE
m1.0 2007/10/17 15:26:38 35.755N 118.364W 8.5 6 km ( 4 mi) E
m1.3 2007/10/17 15:25:38 35.761N 118.370W 7.4 6 km ( 3 mi) ENE
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23rd-October-2007, 07:18 PM
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The two earthquakes below are in the same general area but on different faults in granite structures. Faults also visible on Google Earth. The Moon period has increased to 28.3 days four days from perigee at 28.41 days. The Moon period will continue to increase to 28.51 days at perigee November 24, 2007. Once again the events took place after the Noon zenith with slightly larger releases similar to the 17th event 17 miles away. All three on isolated faults.
The Moon had a hand in these events. The geodetic position of the moon cone of force was moving through the area as well as the Sun. The Moon had moved past Uranus at about 2PM and was just releasing from the Earth spin influence at 135 degrees toward full Moon at 180 degrees. This movement would have increased the magnetic field in the area. The question. Did this have anything to do with the sudden outburst of fires in Southern California? Quite a coincidence, don’t you think?
m2.3 2007/10/22 19:48:24 35.817N 118.418W 11.5 8 km ( 5 mi) N
m1.7 2007/10/22 17:10:49 35.739N 118.485W 18.8 5 km ( 3 mi) W
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24th-October-2007, 10:19 PM
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M4.3 2007/10/24 05:22:48 35.836N 117.686W 5.2 24 km (15 mi) N of Ridgecrest, CA
This event was 55 miles east of the above events. The Moon was at 163 degrees with a Moon system of force near maximum two days from perigee on the 26th. The Moon was about half way between the intersection of the longitudes of Mercury and Venus on the same side of the Sun as Earth. All planets except Mars and Saturn were increasing their distance from Earth. Both the Moon and the Earth were about 90 degrees to the Longitude of the Jupiter system of force which may have been the deciding factor. Total force may be similar to Moon apogee moving from decreasing to increasing and Sun aphelion decreasing around the Sun and then increasing as the Earth swings past the summer solstice. The timing of early morning events near the terminator, on either side, is not unusual.
The location of this event has another factor involved. There is a geothermal operation within a mile or so to the southwest. One of my associates in a very knowledgeable person on geothermal operations, having built the first plant in the Geysers area. He has traveled all over the world for the same company looking for other sites. He informed me that the operation at the cove site is not replacing the water being removed. He says one of the reason there have been a continuing number of small events in the area is from subsidence, although he agrees with me there is a possibility that magma if moving into the area as well. He thinks this makes that site extremely dangerous.
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24th-October-2007, 11:11 PM
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wow.................so many words..its cosmic somehow
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24th-October-2007, 11:25 PM
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wow.................so many words..its cosmic somehow
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Don't knock it forfi, it may not be the whole answer but it definately makes sense to being a part of it.
By the way ward, Thank you for taking the time doing the work you are doing and for posting it.
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24th-October-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by forfi
wow.................so many words..its cosmic somehow
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Don't knock it forfi, it may not be the whole answer but it definately makes sense to being a part of it.
By the way ward, Thank you for taking the time doing the work you are doing and for posting it.
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Not really knocking it Gerbil, its just so many words,too many and it is a big part of the story.This is not for "posts" has to be done in maybe PDF so the whole can be seen.
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