------ THE SKY IS FALLING ------

[Paradox]

SEVEN-YEAR STABILIZATION OF METHANE MAY SLOW GLOBAL WARMING

Striking Deep Current Reversal In The Tropical Pacific Ocean

[Skeptic]

Paradox.
What are you trying to say?

[Simple]

I am sure Simple made the above statement in all innocence. However, it is an example of how data selection can distort the picture. Only the Antarctic Peninsular is warming, which is a very tiny fraction of that continent. The main bulk of the Antarctic continent is, in fact, cooling.

No Skeptic,

The wstern penisula is warming even faster the average is 1C, the links to the data and papers are in this thread about 4-6 pages ago Paradox found one and posted some others.

[Simple]

I am not saying we don't have a problem. We do, and action to avert loss of biodiversity is important. Just that it does not help to come up with massive exaggerations.

Skeptic you seem always try to put extinction rates with biodiversity loss which isn't truly reflective.

Although extinctions are at the highest rate they have ever been at present and the 30% losses are well reported in the WWF living planet report 2006 try looking it up in google it explains it quite well.

We are currently in the fastest mass extinction in the earth's history. THis was the conclusion by hte American Natural history museum in 1998 look it on their website.

The world is warming quickly and the richness of animal species is falling away quickly.

[Skeptic]

Simple.
I do understand the difference between biodiversity loss and extinction rates. However, the two do march in parallel, and loss of biodiversity can be correlated with extinction rate. Since we cannot measure biodiversity loss, we need to measure extinction rate, which correlates with it, to get some idea of quantity.

And having said all that, your estimate of 30% is still enormously exaggerated.

[dowism]

[Paradox]

Originally Posted by dowism

Loss of habitat, species and diversity is a warning for us. Maybe we face lack of O2 in the not too distant future

Let's hope not.

[Paradox]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

Paradox.
What are you trying to say?

Hi Skeptic,

I'm off on holiday at the moment. I wasn't making a point...simply posting more related material.

Sea Surface Temps

[dowism]

[Simple]

Skeptic,

please read the WWF report it is very clear and the nature papers earlier this year which is also clear, and the science papers, etc,etc,etc.

25-30% is about right as are the other facts I quote as you know always backed up.