Hurricane Wilma 'strongest ever' = Global Warming

[Zoltan Paul Jambor]

The US national Hurricane Centre says Hurricane Wilma, now battering Honduras and Nicaragua, is the strongest hurricane ever to be recorded. It's a category five storm with windspeeds of 280km/h. It's on it's way to Eastern Cuba, then Moving up to the USA, possibly Florida.

Nature is sure teaching the USA a lesson about the facts of global warming. Denying just doesn't cut it any more. Even CNN can't ignore the facts any more. Perhaps it's also time for the Americans to reduce their CO2 emissions. The omelet has been eaten and the people whose eggs got broken aren't somewhere else any more. The actions of the US has finally caused havoc in their own back yard.

One word:
Karma

Global warming is here people and it's here to stay. The time for scepticism is over. It't time we all face the facts.

The time is here to act

Hurricane Wilma 'strongest ever'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4355622.stm


ZPJ

[Richard]

How do you know that it's caused by global warming?

[Richard]

Just to expand on my point, here is an example:

Hypothesis: that increased sales of ice-cream cause more people to drown.

Proof: in the summer, more ice-cream is sold than at any other time of the year. Also in the summer, more people drown than at any other time of the year.

Correlation identified. Case proved. Ice-cream causes people to drown.

(See how easy it is to find correlations that don't actually exist?)

[antiHype]

There's something very religious about Zoltan's post.

Firstly, it's about punishment. The punishment is the proof of the anger of nature, and the sentience of nature. Finally, sceptics/unbeleivers are instructed to convert.

[Richard]

Self flagellation is a common human trait though don't you think?

[MarkuisMellvile]

Originally Posted by Zoltan

Hurricane Wilma 'strongest ever' = Global Warming

Mathematically that is false.

Like Zoltan, I'm of the opinion that more, stronger storms are the direct result of humanity's continued ignorance and greed, but no individual weather event can be attributed to the outdated phrase that is Global Warming.

There are so many influences on our climate and Climate Change that false statements get us nowhere.

Before you take offense Z, I'm not saying that climate change is not responsible for Hurricane Wilma, just that (as Rob points out) no direct correlation can reasonably be made - again!

I wrote my signature because I genuinely believe that humans will learn lessons in the end, but through their ignorance and greed few people will be left to see the improvement in centuries to come.

Those trying to teach the lessons have to continue doing so, but not with flawed logic in their arguments.

MM

[jaunty albatross]

MM,

"....I genuinely believe that humans will learn lessons in the end, but through
their ignorance and greed few people will be left to see the improvements
in centuries to come...." - HOPEFULLY.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4355994.stm

[MarkuisMellvile]

Oh, Jaunty:

Why?

This is not the end, people have not yet learned the lessons that need to be learnt. Of a population of over 6 Billion (6,000,000,000) millions are born and die every generation.

I'm guessing (from your non-communicative repeat of this link) that you've not got the motivation today to express your opinion, but replying to threads (four already) with a BBC article about the impact of deforestation and drought on those living in the Amazon basin says nothing much.

MM

[jaunty albatross]

MM,

If it says "nothing much" to you, then you are willfully blind, like the
billions of other obsessive-compulsive humans. Are you really that blind?
I doubt it. You just don't want to admit what's happening, which is perfectly
understandable.

[Zoltan Paul Jambor]

Originally Posted by MarkuisMellvile

Mathematically that is false.

Like Zoltan, I'm of the opinion that more, stronger storms are the direct result of humanity's continued ignorance and greed, but no individual weather event can be attributed to the outdated phrase that is Global Warming.

There are so many influences on our climate and Climate Change that false statements get us nowhere.

Before you take offense Z, I'm not saying that climate change is not responsible for Hurricane Wilma, just that (as Rob points out) no direct correlation can reasonably be made - again!

MM

No offense taken.

No direct correlation?
Really?

Well let me spell it out for you, casuse as Jaunty has pointed out quite elegantly, you are wilfully blind as you don't care to see reality for what it is as you don't really know how to deal with it. Well, it's my duty to present you a cocktail of facts and numbers to finally prove my point once and for all.

1) 2005 has seen a record number of hurricanes, 12 to be axact, in one season, and this hurricane season still has 41 days left in it.
2) Hurricanes have increased in intensity, by 50%, since the 1970s.
3) Surface water temperatures in the Mid Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico are 2 degrees Celcius above average. This rise in surface water temperatures is caused by the rise in atmospheric temperatures.
4) Americans have seen more destruction this season than they ever have in any given hurricane season. Hurricane Katrina proved to be the most costly natural disaster ever in the USA.
5) Hurricane Wilma (Now battering the Gulf of Mexico) reached windspeeds of 280km/h, the highest ever to be recorded since data recordings began in 1880s.

I don't know about you MM, but for me, there are enough numbers up there to provide enough concrete mathematical evidence to prove once and for all that Global warming is in fact causing Hurrican Wilma to be the strongest ever. And in fact the formula Hurricane Wilma 'strongest hurricane ever' = Global Warming does indeed hold very true. You choosing not to see this is a good indicator that you are in essence electing to live blind.

It's time you open your eyes and stop living in your world of disbelief.

ZPJ