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Old 6th-October-2008, 10:54 AM
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Interesting.

In question 7, in reference to the Carboniferous and Ordovician periods

"According to greenhouse theory, Earth should have been exceedingly hot. Instead, global temperatures were no warmer than today. Clearly, other factors besides atmospheric carbon influence earth temperatures and global warming."

That's the whole point, 'anyone' can produce a model that supposedly links together two variables (CO2 and temperature), but it doesn't mean it is correct. For example, you can get the right answers with the wrong method, and that is what I believe is happening with modern day data. This is something the alarmists continue to ignore - blind faith in black box models is extremely dangerous. The route problem is the CODE ! ..Instead of all this never ending gush and waffle claiming the models are doing a good job , we need more oversight of how they are set up.
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Question 3:
The main cause of Global Warming is:

a) pollution from factories and automobiles
b) orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the Sun's output
c) the Greenhouse Effect


If you take it to mean the global warming that is occurring now, rather than historical global warming on a geological time scale, then (c) is the correct answer, not (b) as they suggest.

Question 7:
Carbon dioxide from coal-fired power plants damages forests.
True
False


Too much CO2, independent of the source will, of itself, damage some forests. Particularly the Amazon rainforest will collapse from too much CO2 because many species respond to more CO2 with less transpiration, leading to a collapse in the rainfall.

Also climate change from the CO2 threatens forests. The Boreal forest is under threat. Canada in particular has lost large areas of spruce to the pine beetle whose range has been increasing northwards.


Question 8:
Which answer below provides the best explanation for the following temperature record?

a) Industrial pollution from factories, power plants, and cars caused global warming
b) Natural variations in global temperatures may occur in roughly 500-years cycles
c) Global cooling occurred as a result of the Renaissance Period


Their answer is probably right for that temperature record, but the temperature record looks nothing like that chart at all.
Here are 12 different peer reviewed temperature reconstructions from the scientific community:


The rise in the last 50 years is due to (a), except that industrial pollution itself causes a negative forcing. (Not counting greenhouse emissions).

Question 9:
Which of the following is not true about an increasing greenhouse effect?

a) the consensus of scientists is that the problem warrants drastic action
b) nighttime temperatures may increase, but daytime temperatures will not
c) the coldest, driest regions of the planet will warm first


They get this wrong too. It is not true that daytime temperatures will not increase. Daytime temperatures have been, and do increase with the greenhouse effect. Night-time temperatures certainly increase more, but daytime temperature increase too.

(a) Is probably the most true. The IPCC reports at least said the immediate action could avoid or ameliorate many of the impacts. Of course that was immediate action last year.

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It's a crappy denialist test that has been doing the rounds for a while.

The last time I saw it was from the Heartland institute, It looks exactly the same, just another mob spruiking it.
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surprise! My posts say the same thing and I have only use planets as a gage.
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