"Nature not Human Activity Rules the Climate"

[spadlet]

Here's one for Forfi's Mum. The Non-Governmental International Panel on Climate CHange held a conference in New York in early March. It is reported that 300-400 scientists from 15 countries attended. They have now produced a report "Nature not Human Activity Rules the Climate" which can be viewed here: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/im...nal%202008.pdf

Thought that people might be interested.

[forfismum]

The IPCC getting sense? Just downloading that file now,back when I read it.

[spadlet]

Originally Posted by forfismum

The IPCC getting sense? Just downloading that file now,back when I read it.

No, it's written by the Non-Governmental International Panel on Climate Change.

Hopefully it could spark some interesting scientific debate.

[forfismum]

Originally Posted by spadlet

No, it's written by the Non-Governmental International Panel on Climate Change.

Hopefully it could spark some interesting scientific debate.

I know that ,just taking the p**s,but i do agree with that report ,I fully support the NIPCC.........................

[JustTheFacts]

This is a great report! How come it is not a sticky like the IPCC report?

[spadlet]

Originally Posted by JustTheFacts

This is a great report! How come it is not a sticky like the IPCC report?

Alot of people that do not want to question AGW seem to be dismissing the report because the author (Fred Singer) has been a Senior Fellow of a conservative think-tank, has defended the tabaco industry and the Heartland Institute (a conservative organisation) has published the report. I'm happy to have a look at the backgrounds of authors of both the NIPCC and the IPCC's work. Even better would be anyone wanting to suggest good textbooks for learning about meteorology and climateology.

Personally I don't think that funding source is the dictator on how physical forces and chemical reaction work and that both sides of any arguement may uncover new scientific principles. For example it was an emloyee of Shell Oil Company (M. King Hubbert) that published a theory of resource depletion suggesting that the life of a resource follows a Gaussian curve {Hubbert M., 1956 from Messenger R et Ventre J, 2004} I started the thread because I think that scepticism is healthy and encourages people to ask questions, investigate and learn. I also wanted to highlight that having some letters after your name does not mean that you know everything. It didn't seem unreasonable to look at both sides of the debate so that people can ask their own questions and draw their own conclusions.

References:
Hubbert, M. K., 1956, The energy resources of the earth, Scientific American, Vol 225, No 3, September 1971, 60-70

Messenger R. A. et Ventre J, 2004, Photovoltaic Systems Engineering Second Edition, p12-13, CRC Press, Florida, ISBN 0-8493-1793-2

[spadlet]

P.S. It would be great is there was an IPCC response to the NIPCC report, if anyone comes across one?