James Hansen: "Almost Too Late to Stop Global Warming"

[draypoker]

Originally Posted by kev67

Not that I've worked out the numbers, but I suspect the only way to stop irreversible climate change will be some drastic technological solution to cut down sunlight.

What's the point in offering an opinion without knowing "the numbers". As "the numbers" are very involved and complex, a close study of the quantities involved is important. Almost all the talk on this forum about denying the problem, or exaggerating the effects of change are the result of not knowing "the numbers'.

[forfismum]

Originally Posted by draypoker

What's the point in offering an opinion without knowing "the numbers". As "the numbers" are very involved and complex, a close study of the quantities involved is important. Almost all the talk on this forum about denying the problem, or exaggerating the effects of change are the result of not knowing "the numbers'.

42, thats what we came up with

[Bored Wombat]

Originally Posted by flogger

"A drastic technological solution to cut down atmospheric CO2 would have less unknowns."

One certainty is millions would be condemned to prenmature death and suffering in the third world as we handicap thier development with utterly pointless CO 2 legislation.

What makes that certain?

[Bored Wombat]

Originally Posted by hefler

What he doesn't mention in that article is that he thinks execs from Exxon et al be put on trial for 'crimes against humanity'.

Put oil firm chiefs on trial, says leading climate change scientist | Environment | The Guardian

Hear, hear.

[flogger]

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[flogger]

"What makes that certain?"

Are you kidding ? Talk about wilfully blind !

[kev67]

Originally Posted by draypoker

What's the point in offering an opinion without knowing "the numbers". As "the numbers" are very involved and complex, a close study of the quantities involved is important. Almost all the talk on this forum about denying the problem, or exaggerating the effects of change are the result of not knowing "the numbers'.

Which is why I put in that caveat. My feeling is that whatever the 'safe' level of CO2 in the atmosphere is, say 350ppm, the world response will be too little, too late to meet it. Real urgency to tackle the problem won't happen until people see climate change really taking hold, by which time it would be too late. If that happens then a big technological fix will be on the cards.

[dan]

Originally Posted by sparky

On Monday, NASA climatologist Dr.James Hansen will testify at a House committee hearing that it is almost, but not quite, too late to start defusing what he calls the “global warming time bomb.” He will offer a plan for cuts in emissions and also a warning about the risks of further inaction.

Years Later, Climatologist Renews His Call for Action - NYTimes.com

At the end of this Bush government there is freedom of speech from within the WhiteHouse on climate change.
For the first time government funded scientists feel free to speak their mind on the climate without being sent to remote outposts


God Bless America...the land of the free and getting more expensive.

[Bored Wombat]

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

See how 1934 has shot ahead of 1998 in the US Temperature record! It must be a fraud it's such a MASSIVE correction!

Some interests did rather overstate the effect of this didn't they?

I does seem to have stuck, mind.

That corrected global mean surface temperature graph again:


It's a good thing those corrections were made. Anyone would have thought that the globe was warming.

[Bored Wombat]

Originally Posted by flogger

Are you kidding ? Talk about wilfully blind !

Nothing then?

Not one study you can point to?

Is this some new meaning of "certain"?