The world is cooling (apparently)

[screener]

forfismum, there is no requirement for anyone to introduce themselves except their own inclination.

There are many areas on the planet that don't have any man made record of weather, and quite a few, my own included that have less than a hundred years of record. As OH-IO1981 indicated he/she is aware of the other kinds of records available to those who can read them.

Speaking of reading material here's something from the world meteorological organization concerning the issue. I kind of suspect that they are wrong about the duration of La Nina this time around, anyone like to bet that it goes on past the two year span of a normal strong event?

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"La Niña modulates climate variability. There has always been and there will always be cooler and warmer years, but what is important for climate change in the present context is that the trend is still upwards; the global climate on an average is warming despite the temporary cooling brought about by La Niña."

[forfismum]

Originally Posted by screener

forfismum, there is no requirement for anyone to introduce themselves except their own inclination.

There are many areas on the planet that don't have any man made record of weather, and quite a few, my own included that have less than a hundred years of record. As OH-IO1981 indicated he/she is aware of the other kinds of records available to those who can read them.

Speaking of reading material here's something from the world meteorological organization concerning the issue. I kind of suspect that they are wrong about the duration of La Nina this time around, anyone like to bet that it goes on past the two year span of a normal strong event?

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"La Niña modulates climate variability. There has always been and there will always be cooler and warmer years, but what is important for climate change in the present context is that the trend is still upwards; the global climate on an average is warming despite the temporary cooling brought about by La Niña."

OK so folks can come in, post shit and we are all to sit here and nod politely in agreement? So many folks post in forums with the latest bit of "news"that they have read ,giving the impression that they have PhD then when you question them you find that they are 12and 3/4 years old and mommy told them to stop looking at porn and do something nice for a change and that why they are here.
Now I am really sorry if you don't have long term weather records from your area but you could get out there and get some and not having them is not an excuse for dumbing down the subject.Try a few mud cores from a lake or a few nice tree rings for starters.Or ask.

[screener]

As I understand it, people can come on here and post what they are interested in putting out there in front of other people. The people of the second part have the obligation to nod politely and then explain where they are right or wrong or off target. I don't think it's our responsibility to tell anyone to take a hike, if for example that were your preferred method of discussing issues that are important presumably you could start a forum where people who wanted to be treated like that could go. Win, win, situation.

I know what you mean about the 12 and 3/4 year olds that seem to have the intelligence of a PhD education behind them. Ah hates it when they shows me up. Fortunately this isn't a really elitist place and any who want to can post. Even real doctors, Which reminds me when I get my honourary doctorate in chiropracty, I'm sure I will simply know whether nodding in agreement from time to time isn't good for a stiff neck.

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[forfismum]

Originally Posted by screener

As I understand it, people can come on here and post what they are interested in putting out there in front of other people. The people of the second part have the obligation to nod politely and then explain where they are right or wrong or off target. I don't think it's our responsibility to tell anyone to take a hike, if for example that were your preferred method of discussing issues that are important presumably you could start a forum where people who wanted to be treated like that could go. Win, win, situation.

I know what you mean about the 12 and 3/4 year olds that seem to have the intelligence of a PhD education behind them. Ah hates it when they shows me up. Fortunately this isn't a really elitist place and any who want to can post. Even real doctors, Which reminds me when I get my honourary doctorate in chiropracty, I'm sure I will simply know whether nodding in agreement from time to time isn't good for a stiff neck.

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OK your little friend posted a piece of nonsense regarding records.Then went on the use that bit of ignorance to infer that we were somehow hypocrites because he/she/it only has information going back 100 years.A simple read through the earlier posts would where most of us get our facts from.

It would be helpful if folks introduced themselves so as to allow folks like me to stand up and give my seat to a pregnant woman or try to understand that the new 16 year old has just left school and is as thick as two short planks.Get my drift?

Anther bit on being helpful.Why can't the moderators of this forum get rid of the spammers instead of sniping at me and each other? There were 3 of them on the board at the same time yesterday while one mod was googling away trying to find links to bash another mod with.

[Windguy]

Geez Forfismum, now your opening the war up to moderators too... We'll have to call you Germany.

They're only volunteers who came to this site to do what we all like (TO ARGUE) the moderators job just fell in their lap without pay. Just the power to use a cattle prod or two when we get heated.

[forfismum]

Originally Posted by Windguy

Geez Forfismum, now your opening the war up to moderators too... We'll have to call you Germany.

What?? Me?? I am just a mild manner old gent who likes to see things in order.Piss-farting about while 25% of those on line are spammers is not good enough All I am saying is "wake up and smell the nappies"

They're only volunteers who came to this site to do what we all like (TO ARGUE) the moderators job just fell in their lap without pay. Just the power to use a cattle prod or two when we get heated.

Been there done that,used to run one myself.Arguing is nice and I'm all for it but lets cut the crap.a newbie pops in and talks rubbish,thats a need for a smack on the arse not an argument.Bad enough when the existing members do it............

[Windguy]

I don't care about the newbies even though your a bazooka against a stick, but the mods are volunteers and come here for the same reason as we do. If I was a mod involved in a bit of arge barge then I'd ignore other threads until they're over too. The way I see it though to see them argue is good as it shows positional pecking orders within the site itself.

So it is interesting that we can remove the person, their size and strength, their imposing tone and reduce them both to just words on a screen and they still push and pull for position. Still far more civil than Australian parliment though.

[forfismum]

And it comes back to a bit of common sense too. If someone takes what is posted in a forum seriously then they are heading for the valium and no mistake.I read it somewhere only recently that the "internet is great,you get to insult people that you never met" or words to that effect.I think it may have been Clarkeson wot said that.But there are too many pompous gits floating around and it is relaxing to take a pop at them.I don't take myself too seriously so don't expect any genuflections from forfi.or is it forfismum....or sister degreaser, I have trouble keeping up at times...............

[Windguy]

Whoever insults for the sake of it will disappear though. eventually the rest of us just runs them out of town, so to say.

So if they like the site then they do try to preserve their friendship and/or pecking order position within the site to lengthen their stay and their enjoyment. We don't join forums to agree with everyone else, so it mainly leaves the "for arguments sake" is the norm. Usually in life we argue until someone has nothing extra to say (or the dumb person resorts to shouting the same point over because he lost).

With the internet it is impossible, google will bring up endless arguments and counter arguments that unless the information is evaluated and has proper referencing, no one will win.

If you understood what I said please go to the nearest mental hospital and check yourself in.

[forfismum]

but to get back on topic,the main source of information that many folks have is headline seeking junk in newspapers and once an idea is set it becomes hard to shift it.Climate is the buzz word with many papers and the items are written by hacks and not by scientists,the scientific stuff is too boring for most folks to plough through so the antics of Gore and pals grabs their attention.