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Old 17th-December-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Climate Change due to Global Warming – a hoax?

Anything one does, ultimately it results in contributing to global warming! Doesn’t make much sense. Suddenly, everybody thinks that a half a degree rise in the average global temperature is causing all the catastrophic events seen world-wide. The scenario which was expected after a few decades has arrived right now at our doors.

I am a strong environmentalist, but I feel that the way the things are projected, doesn’t go well with the public. These days the individual members of the public are aware of things and they can not be expected to be at the receiving end all the time.

I have very many doubts in my mind:

1. Either all the concerned monitoring agencies were misreporting / underreporting the actual global warming status all these years when the developed countries were polluting the environment with the green house gases (GHGs). Today, the countries (example: USA at Bali) not willing to accept any commitment to cut down the GHG emissions!
2. The countries want to bring severe restrictions on the emissions on the developing countries like India and China. Unfair political deal!
3. In reality, how carbon credits are going to reduce the existing global warming scenario?
4. Is the small rise in the temperature is the real reason for the climate change which is being witnessed today?
5. Is this not a natural cyclic phenomenon, which is difficult to reverse?
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Old 3rd-January-2008, 08:05 AM
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Default Global warming due to man-made activities ?

I am surprized none replied for my comments on - Climate change due to global warming - hoax?

The climate change is most probably natural cyclic phenomenon.

On Tuesday, the LLAIMA VOLCANO in Chile's Conguillio National Park erupted. It brings out millions of tons of particles, debris and emitted unestimated amount of Greenhouse gases. The quantity may be equivalent to so many coal-based power plants.

This also proves that the climate change we are witnessing today is due to cyclic natural phenomenon.
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I am surprized none replied for my comments on - Climate change due to global warming - hoax?

The climate change is most probably natural cyclic phenomenon.

On Tuesday, the LLAIMA VOLCANO in Chile's Conguillio National Park erupted. It brings out millions of tons of particles, debris and emitted unestimated amount of Greenhouse gases. The quantity may be equivalent to so many coal-based power plants.

This also proves that the climate change we are witnessing today is due to cyclic natural phenomenon.
So, you are saying that a single moderate volcano eruption is proof that global warming is natural.

Now you still wonder you got no replies? Go study.

Don't you think all of the industries, power plants, deforestation, cars, planes, etc don't have any impact on the planet ??? Why the hell do you think there's a incredibly steep CO2 and temperature rise in the last 60 years, right after the industrial revolution and population explosion?? We are everywhere, we have caused great damage to the planet already... if you can't see this, I'm sorry for you.
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Old 3rd-January-2008, 11:23 AM
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I am surprized none replied for my comments on - Climate change due to global warming - hoax?

The climate change is most probably natural cyclic phenomenon.

On Tuesday, the LLAIMA VOLCANO in Chile's Conguillio National Park erupted. It brings out millions of tons of particles, debris and emitted unestimated amount of Greenhouse gases. The quantity may be equivalent to so many coal-based power plants.

This also proves that the climate change we are witnessing today is due to cyclic natural phenomenon.
So, you are saying that a single moderate volcano eruption is proof that global warming is natural.

Now you still wonder you got no replies? Go study.

Don't you think all of the industries, power plants, deforestation, cars, planes, etc don't have any impact on the planet ??? Why the hell do you think there's a incredibly steep CO2 and temperature rise in the last 60 years, right after the industrial revolution and population explosion?? We are everywhere, we have caused great damage to the planet already... if you can't see this, I'm sorry for you.
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I think the lack of response is due to the frequent discussions on the subject all over the forum.icareforyou has some very valid points regarding the volcano and it might be an idea to see how volcanic activity has seriously buggered up this planet in the past.Our Indian pal will no doubt be familiar with the Deccan Flats for example.
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Old 3rd-January-2008, 11:47 AM
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icareforyou has some very valid points regarding the volcano
No. He doesn't.
It's a matter of quantities.

The amount of carbon released by volcanoes is known. It is a tiny fraction of the amount released by moving the carbon from coal and oil into the atmosphere.
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icareforyou has some very valid points regarding the volcano
No. He doesn't.
It's a matter of quantities.

The amount of carbon released by volcanoes is known. It is a tiny fraction of the amount released by moving the carbon from coal and oil into the atmosphere.
Who mentioned carbon? is that the only greenhouse gas that you know of ? Dear me you have not been reading the posts in the forum ,never mind the big bad world outside.
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On Tuesday, the LLAIMA VOLCANO in Chile's Conguillio National Park erupted. It brings out millions of tons of particles, debris and emitted unestimated amount of Greenhouse gases.
Note the use of the plural "gases"
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An interesting page on volcanic gasses http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/Wh...as/volgas.html
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If it was a hoax at some point the IPCC and almost everyone working in the field would have to have said to themselves "Hang on this Man made Global warming theory doesn't add up! What are we going to do for work? we will just have to make it up" This to me is silly.
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If it was a hoax at some point the IPCC and almost everyone working in the field would have to have said to themselves "Hang on this Man made Global warming theory doesn't add up! What are we going to do for work? we will just have to make it up" This to me is silly.
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Old 5th-January-2008, 08:29 PM
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I"Hang on this Man made Global warming theory doesn't add up! What are we going to do for work?
I dunno,maybe they could re-train as scientists ?
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