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Old 18th-July-2008, 03:52 PM
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The motto is a joke, taken from a scene in a film with a kangaroo court.

You have no interest in the truth your playing to the gallery. Its obvious, you raise questions
you say we can't answer and are the linchpin of our case and when in due course they are answered you just raise new questions. I've seen it before, Your ten-a-penny on the internet you want to take over any forum where this subject is discussed and stop all intelligent discussion. I don't know if your all part of some doomsday cult trying to fuck the world up by using half assed arguments from bloggs to convince stupid people that mankind can't possibly have any effect on the world or what.

You do however raise some interesting questions, but I assume that Google is blocked wherever you access the internet from because if you had spent ten minutes searching for those questions that the AGW crowd is apparently dodging you could have found answers.
Since time is pressing I will just attempt to answer one.

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Originally Posted by ThankyouMoneypenny View Post
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You used the term ‘light’ when you asked me the question. Did you really mean ‘light’ or longer-wave infra-red radiation? The sun does not greatly heat the atmosphere, because the sun must give off high frequency radiation in the area of visible light, which goes through the atmosphere. Something as hot as the sun cannot give off low frequency radiation, called infrared. This means that the sun's radiation heats the surface of the earth, and then the heat moves from the earth's surface into the atmosphere through conduction, convection, evaporation and infrared radiation. The infrared radiation can be absorbed by so-called greenhouse gasses.

Carbon dioxide absorbs infrared radiation (IR) in three narrow bands of frequencies, which are 2.7, 4.3 and 15 micrometres (µM). I would think this means that most of the heat-producing radiation escapes it.

Without the greenhouse effect the earth would have the same average temperature as the moon. We know its different, we know how different we know its due to the atmosphere and we know from the spectrograph already referred to what percentage to attribute to CO2.

I meant all light including IR The frequency is irrelevant its the amount of IR that it absorbs that is relevant. I am impressed that you know the frequency that CO2 absorbs IR. I however am less impressed by the statement "Something as hot as the sun cannot give off low frequency radiation, called infrared."

You want some stinking evidence, Look at the sun with a IR camera. I don't know if it would be covered by warranty if you took it back to the shop after the experiment.
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