
9th-June-2008, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SgtThursday
Hmm, I didn't even look at the storage claim... so let's do so.
1000 L of water = 1000 kg
Heat capacity of water = 4.18 kJ/kg.degC
Max temperature 200 deg C
Ambient temperature 20 deg C (let's say ~ avg for Brisbane?)
Temperature difference = 180 deg C
Max stored heat = 1000 * 4.18 * 180 = 752400 kJ = 209 kWh
209 kWh / 3 days = 69.7 kWh/d
Promises made ~ 180 kWh/d (electricity + AC + hot water)
Even ignoring the AC and hot water and using the "bankable" 120 kWh/d electricity we'd be at a substantial deficit... and that's if we could assume 100% efficiency converting the stored heat energy into the other useful forms... which is also impossible if we want to obey the laws of thermodynamics.
Let me know when you're ready to commit to a firm view.
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On the surface and in respect of some basic calculations, as indicated it does look rather impressive, to a point of almost too good to believe. Beyond that however rather than bandy about hypothesis ad infinitum, I suggest the only real way you will have absolute certainty, is knowing exactly what they are proposing. I haven't been back to review their site since my initial brief overview. Other things to do I'm afraid.
The information on their site seems to me to be somewhat ambiguous and the use English on the web site to me at least, makes interpretation subjective in some areas. This aspect also raises some concern, thus I would equally not want to be too presumptuous about their intended meaning in every aspect conveyed. Further more, the errors on the site make it difficult to have great confidence in the information presented, thus even deriving calculations from potentially erroneous and poorly written information, might likely yield misinterpretation and error. I would not want to make any assumptions about their intended meaning. We sited examples of basic errors and that weakens ones confidence in the information and how best to interpret it.
I do sometimes wonder if the site was typed up by the office clerk or someone. Another example, they refer to "SSHCMV" when I wonder if they meant SHCMV ( Super Heat Conduction Metal Vacuum ) i.e. with one less "S". I guess it might be a super super version.
I also note they use the word "tanks" in their description, although you only factored in 1 tank in your calcs. Again an example of interpretation of their language. It could be, that they mean more than one tank. I just dont want to jump to conclusions at this stage.
Thus in respect of this, I would not see a great deal of sense committing to a view, until they have released the product and the real world results are in. I'm happy to watch and see for the time being, but by all means follow it up further, perhaps with the developers, if interested.
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Last edited by LMagic007; 9th-June-2008 at 04:47 PM.
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