
13th-May-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wobs
Still waiting to see how my arguments fall, as I'm waiting to see you address them.
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Originally Posted by Wobs
You cite "experts", but they're the ones who have a vested interest in its expansion, as I've repeatedly pointed out. Also, economists are known for getting things wrong on a regular basis, so I'd say it is most valid to discuss issues outside what they are saying.
I'd also like to point out that economists were saying much the same in the 80s and 90s. The solar experts have their own biase of course.
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Expert economists that have nothing to do with Solar Thermal industry are remarking about energy prices and the outlook. They are also reflecting fact as oil prices are 3 times what they were in 1991 being the period around which the report sand91_7014.pdf pertains and at that time $40 a barrel was considered high and its now over $120 a barrel.
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Originally Posted by Wobs
As you'll see in previous posts, I didn't say that tax was a current barrier. But what NREL do not mention are technical issues that others have mentioned. Issues that lead to the earlier plants being shutdown. Thus its perfectly valid to try to look beyond what you've been told by said experts.
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Yes but you made reference to the report sand91_7014.pdf which by nature and name is not intended to look at technical issues. The issues it raises though show clearly that Solar Thermal technology had government policy working against it. The article does not relate to any technical issues you may have raised, that we have been made well aware of, but it's clear that technical issues were not the primary reason for the apparent lower degree of success, than may have been the case if government was more fair in terms of leveling the playing field. By all means look beyond what I have read about, but I still think it's clear based on the evidence, that the case is extremely strong for Solar Thermal energy. To me the evidence and proof is overwhelming that Solar Thermal energy stands to play a significant role in our future.
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Originally Posted by Wobs
The report focuses on issues such as taxes, but I've highlighted hints at other issues. Read through my recent posts again and try to show that you know what I'm saying please.
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I won't be reading your posts again. I don't believe any points you have raised are show stopping issues. You have raised issues and as I have already indicated all technologies have technical issues, but overall I believe it's very clear that Solar Thermal has a strong future along with Solar PV and Wind energy. Renewable energy in general has a strong future not only for the reasons already outlined but also because governments are mandating clean energy targets. That is my opinion and the opinion of others but of course not everyone, but each to their own opinion.
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Last edited by LMagic007; 13th-May-2008 at 04:54 PM.
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