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Old 2nd-March-2008, 08:44 AM
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Thats not a common sense observation, that statement is based on highly controversial and speculative research on the fringe of the field of solar physics, you can choose to believe it but that doesn't make it true and I wouldn't bet the house on the weather turning cooler over the next decades, in fact it probably will get warmer because there is another factor forcing climate stronger then solar forcing.
Hi Spot,

First, is the fact that our Sun is on hiatus 'controversial'? The prediction was for solar cycle 24 to be 50% larger than 23. The problem with quantifying this is THAT SOLAR CYCLE 24 HAS TO START FIRST. We had a false start in July 2006 (about the time it should have begun) and another false start in Jan 2008. The weak sunspots that faintly exist are still characteristic of cycle 23 sunspots. Since I 'believe' this indicates no cycle 24, I guess, technically, this does not make it true. You got me there. As for the 'CLOUD' experiment, it will simply add 'further' quantification of currently 'published' experiments that prove GCR's create clouds.

For the sake of saving time I will quote a piece of another post I made on this subject:
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Climate Skeptics Seize on Cold Spell

I am probably viewed as a skeptic here, and in a way I guess this would be accurate. What differentiates me from the skeptics is that my view is along the lines of a 'Lovelock' AGWing event except for my scenario relates to global cooling and not runaway global warming. I see a globe vying to feed their citizens while facing the challenges presented when you are being evicted by glaciers.

We have a waining Sun. Check. We have a weakened magnetic field as a result and increased cosmic rays. Check. We have historic evidence of a trend (DO Events, Lonnie Thompsons 5200 year event, Mayan Prophesy-Long-Count Calendar). Check. We have current quantifiable, harsh and rapid cooling. Check. We have a ENSO (La Nina) event that is aggressive and growing stronger as I write this. Conservative estimates even leave it open ended after 2008, other estimates predict it could last decades. Check. Less energy being absorbed by the sun and reduced albedo. Check. Global impacts... China, Africa, Europe, America and so on and so on. Check.

Help me out here, I know I quote a biased source here and there but 'enlighten me'.

LA NINA DATA
So, enlighten me. I'm all ears. The only global warming on the horizon will be us collectively rubbing our hands together to stave off the chills.

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