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Originally Posted by Windguy
I truly believe we are definitely on a major planet change far beyond 5200, or even a million years ago.
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Prove it...or at least elaborate on your comment.
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I would like to know how much fossil fuels we've burn't already as that is what will show us how far we are going to change the planet. My best guestimate is quite a few million years in the past.
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You remind me of Simple. I don't see beyond your feelings and conjecture here. Would you like to argue whether or not runaway global warming is possible? It's not, unless we eliminate the Panama Isthmus from the equation and I don't see ocean levels rising that much.
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GHG's are just a trigger, and even most GW scientists accept that as the case
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Ah...the Red Herring. GHG's are the straw that will break the camels back and it's not quite broken...cunning and actually plausible. Can we buy ourselves some time? It's a leap of faith but I believe the natural forces at work put the chance of success at 1-2% on a good day. We have many options that have better odds.
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An ice age I believe will be easily stoppable in the fact that even total freeze overs in the past were fixed up by GHG's from volcano activity. But man can easily speed that process by pumping out strong GHG's, possibly methane or carbon tetrafluorides (depending on how poisonous they are) to warm the planet back up. Methane is great as it only has a ten year lifespan, the CO2 off it can last a while though. But then again carbon black on ice sounds great.
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Windguy, come now. We can't just heat up the planet. It would be much easier to cool it. There may be a stable cycle at an increased temperature (once the dust settles), this is a definite possibility. If we cool (especially if the event is dramatic), we are screwed.
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I don't know if we can really kickstart the thermohaline again if it does slow to a crawl just by dumping salt into the ocean at strategic points though.
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If we could get humanity to band together and throw their household salt into the ocean in unison we may have a chance.
~Paradox
