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Originally Posted by Paradox
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Both Cbacba and I are currently involving ourselves what is the greater forcing, and as Cbacba pointed out solar is 0.8W/m^2, I've pointed out a 2.417W/m^2 for man made GHG's (or termites). But as a 11 year sunspot cycle a 0.2 degree increase and decrease isn't as comparable to the 0.7 degrees as a total so far, what, we've got to decide is do we deny figures out there or do we believe them. But in saying that the IPCC hasn't denied solar forcing, they've just maintained it is not the main forcing, and a thirty year increase definately doesn't fit in the 11 year sunspot cycle.
Don't worry I still believe in the potential for an ice age, but it will be brought on by GW as in, Greenland melting, lowering the saltiness of the ocean, slowing down the thermohaline cycle, snap freezing europe then changing the albedo affect towards more reflection. So be the same if a massive iceberg snaps off and doesn't melt and ends up near the equator creating a cooling spot, lowering albedo etc.. But the flip side of massive rising ocean levels lowering albedo, creating more heat, rising more ocean levels again and changing the storms into superstorms is just as bad a prediction as the other two show we really need to halt the ocean temperatures from rising anymore, and so far the only way to do that is minimise man made GHG production, as we can't block the sun.